Rik (ESA) Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I recently bought 2 x 112 hartke hydrive cabs to replace a 410tp hartke cab (old cheap thing). I've played about 5 gigs with them and in truth have only been happy with the sound once - the rest of the time they seemed extremely "boomy" with the eq on my little Mark 2 amp set flat and filters off. I had a consistent sound with the old 4x10 at over 20 gigs in a variety of stages but am really struggling with these. Given the size, I would have thought there would be less "boom" if anything! Are auralex pads still the way to go, or am I missing something...? All help much appreciated! Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime_BASS Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Don't buy any more stuff until you can figure out what is causing the issue. How are you stacking them? Where do you tend to stand in relation to them? What kind of sound do you usually go for? Also it depends on your definition on Boomy. Have you played with the EQ on the markbass? Does the low mids or bass reduce the boom. For me boom is around 150hz, however the low mid on the markbass head is set kind of high (IMO) I'm surprised that you finding them boomy at all. The cabs I would think would be more defined in the mids to counter any extreme lows compared to a 4x10 which by design doesn't have great dispersion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer of the Bass Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 It's common for small ported cabs to have a bump in the midbass area, which could be the source of your boom. You could experiment with plugging the ports, which should get you a leaner but less bumpy bass response. It might work for you or it might not, but there's nothing to lose by trying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik (ESA) Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1422287062' post='2670698'] Don't buy any more stuff until you can figure out what is causing the issue. How are you stacking them? Where do you tend to stand in relation to them? What kind of sound do you usually go for? Also it depends on your definition on Boomy. Have you played with the EQ on the markbass? Does the low mids or bass reduce the boom. For me boom is around 150hz, however the low mid on the markbass head is set kind of high (IMO) I'm surprised that you finding them boomy at all. The cabs I would think would be more defined in the mids to counter any extreme lows compared to a 4x10 which by design doesn't have great dispersion. [/quote] Thanks for the help both! I stack them on top of each other, regular way as opposed to on their side, if that makes sense. I tend to stand about 4-6 feet from them, but have stood out where the crowd would be during sound check, and it sounds the same - the drummer also says the same from where he is (slightly behind them). Had a quick play with the eq, however I suppose I was just used to having it flat with previous cabs so may need some time working with it... Thanks again. Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 Boom... ?? no reason for it, dial it out. That is what EQ is for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I bought one recently but have only used it once (as most of the time I'm using venue's amps). At low volumes it sounds fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 When soundchecking, completely cut the bass. As you play, introduce it back into the mix and increase the level until you can start to hear it invading the room. Then cut it a tiny bit. Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rik (ESA) Posted January 26, 2015 Author Share Posted January 26, 2015 Cheers folks, twiddling with the eq it is as first port of call! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 LMII bass frequency is quite low at around 40hz IIRC, just roll back on that a little. If you have an active bass you can dial more bass in that way if needs be, that's what I do with a LMII/151p rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Dean Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I have an Ashdown ABM 400RH , when using it with the 2 x10 Ashdown neo cab it's fine , But when I use it with my Barefaced 12T it has an unbelevable low boom , But I just EQ it out at 180HZ leaving a great sound . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebenezer Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Try stacking your cabs end on and cut your bass control to 10-11 o'clock cabs will be a little higher which may help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmayhem Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 Start with knocking on them; if the box gives a hollow boomy sound, then it is not stiff enough. (Like EBS Classic 112, that acts like a cardboard box...) The only thing to do to cure [i]that [/i]problem is to put "stiffening rods" inside the cab, from side to side, from bottom to top, from baffle to back, just like a forest of bass bars. Cheap cabs are cheap of a reason... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 Try roll of carpet felt in the bottom of the cab - might sort it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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