x_Morning_Star_x Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Hi i am looking to get a wireless system for my rack, i have no clue whats good?? i don't want to spend crazy prices but also don't want to buy a cheapy, could anyone recommend anything they have used ? many thanks :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 (edited) As far as rack systems go I can only recommend the line 6 relay one... I think it's the G90? Quite pricey but you don't lose your tone, or those ultra low frequencies. EDIT: about £500 though! Edited July 30, 2012 by chrismuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushers Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I've got the line 6 G30, granted not really a rack unit but for the value for money here is exceptional, would highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
x_Morning_Star_x Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 ive heard good things about both of these line 6 units, i may look into the G30 actually, i think i was being a little too specifc just saying rack, is there any latency issues with G30? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deep Thought Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) I also have the Line 6 G30 and am well pleased with it-although if honest, if I had the cash I probably would go for the G50-I believe the transmitter unit is metal not plastic, and the G30 unit has a minor issue with the battery compartment door, which can be a bit of a sod to close with a set of batteries in. This is a known fault which has come up several times on the Line 6 support forums, I get the impression Line 6 deny the problem exists. It's only a minor niggle, it closes eventually with a bit of fiddling, and in use I have no complaints with the unit. One thing I will say is use decent batteries-when I first got mine it would eat a set of pound shop cheapo batteries in an hour-plus I was using a normal length lead between receiver and amp. Switched to Duracells (also available at our local pound shop!) and bought a short patch lead, and battery life has improved enormously. I understand the transmitter unit clip is more robust on the G50 too. Edited August 14, 2012 by Deep Thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 One thing I discovered last night using mine for the first time was that the place we usually rehearse, I normally get a really bad hum through my amp and so does the keyboard player. Imagine my surprise when we both turned up with G30s and no hum whatsoever. I also managed to snap off one of the wee tags that hold the clippy bit on the recevier while trying to turn it the other way. I'm going to be zip tying it onto my strap anyway but that's a bit of a pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 I've been looking at wireless systems again and the Line6 models seem to be attracting a lot of users here. However... The most common complaint seems to be the flimsiness of the clip on the transmitter units. How can this be? These are items that are sold to gigging musicians. The solution to attach them to the strap should work straight out of the box and not rely on gaffer tape or other bodges. The clip on the ancient (and probably now illegal) Shure transmitter that I used to use never caused my any problems and was gigged very hard so why can't Line6 get something as basic as this right? Secondly looking at the G90 rack unit why is there no output on the front as well as the back? Plenty of rack amps/pre-amps only have input sockets on the front. A good wireless unit needs to be able accommodate both. Poorly thought out IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 [quote name='x_Morning_Star_x' timestamp='1343987839' post='1758189'] ive heard good things about both of these line 6 units, i may look into the G30 actually, i think i was being a little too specifc just saying rack, is there any latency issues with G30? [/quote] None. I have been using one for over two years one and it's a fantastic thing. No latency whatsoever, or sound degradation unlike the older radio units. I'd totally recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Deep Thought' timestamp='1343990347' post='1758231'] I also have the Line 6 G30 and am well pleased with it-although if honest, if I had the cash I probably would go for the G50-I believe the receiver unit is metal not plastic, and the G30 unit has a minor issue with the battery compartment door, which can be a bit of a sod to close with a set of batteries in. This is a known fault which has come up several times on the Line 6 support forums, I get the impression Line 6 deny the problem exists. It's only a minor niggle, it closes eventually with a bit of fiddling, and in use I have no complaints with the unit. One thing I will say is use decent batteries-when I first got mine it would eat a set of pound shop cheapo batteries in an hour-plus I was using a normal length lead between transmitter and amp. Switched to Duracells (also available at our local pound shop!) and bought a short patch lead, and battery life has improved enormously. I understand the receiver unit clip is more robust on the G50 too. [/quote] I hear about that door "problem". I don't get it. Yes, you have to press and slide the latch, hard. But it's not like you need to be the Hulk, and it actually ensures it does not come undone by itself. As for batteries, I never used anything other than Duracell. Packs of 36 at Costco for just over £10. Each pair lasts the advertised 8h of continuous use or more. I really like the battery life indicator. It warns you well in advance, and it is accurate. For me, the only negative is the transmitter clip. It looks very flimsy. For that reason I use a separate holder attached to my strap, and the transmitter goes inside it. Edited August 3, 2012 by mcnach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citymariner Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 G50 for me. Better construction IMO than the g30- its metal over plastic if I remember correctly, greater range so I know I won't exceed it's limits. I've been to a few festivals now where there has been quite a few wireless devices around and never had any interference problems. I choose a random channel to stop me crossing over with people who probably just leave it on channel 1 or the highest channel. Cabletone is a nice touch too as it does stop your sound being overly bright, I roll on for a 10m cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mildmanofrock Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I've just picked up a Stageclix on here. Brilliant. Great quality and recharges itself when playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Another vote for Line 6. I have a headset vocal system for magic shows and I have used also used it in band situations where the stage has been so tiny there was no room for a mic stand. Although using a headset for magic is cool and necessary to keep the hands free.... using one at a band gig (when I'm not a drummer) is slightly embarrassing and makes me think of Five Star! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Just a heads up on Digital wireless..... It probably won't affect a lot of people here but those that play in corporate environments such as hotels where they have an extensive wireless wi-fi network. Sometimes these do cause interfereence with these and I'm aware of at least a couple of events where the users have been asked to not use their Digital systems as it has taken out the hotels network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 [quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1345191132' post='1774680'] Just a heads up on Digital wireless..... It probably won't affect a lot of people here but those that play in corporate environments such as hotels where they have an extensive wireless wi-fi network. Sometimes these do cause interfereence with these and I'm aware of at least a couple of events where the users have been asked to not use their Digital systems as it has taken out the hotels network. [/quote] He he. Ace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Just thinking - whats the input handling like on these things. I have very high output basses... will the Line6 transmitter input cope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 My Precision causes the lights on the PA desk to go all the way up to the top red one so we have to use the pad switch to calm it down a bit and I haven't got the slightest hint of distortion, even when I'm playing really heavily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Thats my point - there isn't a pad on the transmitter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delberthot Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 What I meant was that there's a really hot signal going from my bass to my amp which doesn't distort but the signal going to the desk is off the scale so no need for an attenuator or pad button on the wireless unit for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriswilliams666 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I've got a Line 6 G90 and it is amazing. I have used high end shures, sennheisers, samsons and Nady, but nothing compares the sound, features and quality of the Line 6. Have recommended to loads of others, and they all love them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si600 Posted November 2, 2012 Share Posted November 2, 2012 I'm probably being extremely dense here as usual, but can you use a wireless as IEM as well? My understanding of wireless is that it goes from the bass to the amp via the ether, through the effect send/return if needed and then to the speaker. At what point does the signal come back to you if you're using it as IEM if it can be used so? Presumably the IEM pick up point is your transmitter on the bass so that you get the clean sound in your ear before any amp/effect processing? I'm looking at the Line6 G90 Relay at the moment more for bling and rackability than any real need for it, damn GAS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehux Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Big + for the G30 from me as well Not found any problem with the battery door or the belt clip. Latency is non-existent and I can keep the band amused during rehearsals by playing out in the car park, so long as I have line of sight to the receiver through a window!!! I normally walk out into the audience during the first number, to double check the levels. Plus, I don't have anyone tripping over or pulling out my lead on a cramped stage. The receiver sits on my pedal board and takes its power from the normal daisychain. I did replace the supplied lead for one with a right-angled plug at the bass end - it's a standard 1/4" socket on the transmitter, not a proprietary one like a lot of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcnach Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 [quote name='davehux' timestamp='1352821542' post='1867875'] so long as I have line of sight to the receiver through a window!!! [/quote] I don't think line of sight is necessary... I tested it at home, with the amp in one room, and myself in another... with several doorways in the way. I just wanted to see how loud it sounded from that side of the house. It was still louder than I was hoping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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