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The New Avengers Opening Titles . cool bass line

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Another in my series of impossible to find bass tabs/notation/anything! here is The New Avengers theme music it starts at around 30 seconds in. Listen to it its pretty cool and definately imposible to find any way of finding out the bass line for a non reader like me. I have tried my best at picking the bass out by ear and cant get anywhere near it. Can anyone help ?


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrsRJh9DhNM&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrsRJh9DhNM&feature=related[/url]

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It'ss tricky cos it's really flat, tuned to well below 440 (at least to my ears), this sounds pretty decent to me:

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-4-----------7-:
E:-------------------------:

That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.

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There was a really good cover of this tune by Snowboy and the Latin Section, you may find that on the web or itunes etc.

[quote name='daz' timestamp='1324616251' post='1476303']
Another in my series of impossible to find bass tabs/notation/anything! here is The New Avengers theme music it starts at around 30 seconds in. Listen to it its pretty cool and definately imposible to find any way of finding out the bass line for a non reader like me. I have tried my best at picking the bass out by ear and cant get anywhere near it. Can anyone help ?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrsRJh9DhNM&feature=related[/media]
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[quote name='bobbass4k' timestamp='1324617952' post='1476305']
That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.
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maybe it was played on a fretless bass or a double bass ?

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[quote name='daz' timestamp='1324623811' post='1476323']
maybe it was played on a fretless bass or a double bass ?
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Maybe but it sounds in tune with the song, they might have all tuned to an off tuned piano, or it might have been rerecorded at a slightly lower speed, apparently that was quite common with in the old days of tape.

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I swear it was theme tunes like this one that planted the seed in the back of my mind about me playing bass :)

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[quote name='bobbass4k' timestamp='1324624165' post='1476326']
Maybe but it sounds in tune with the song, they might have all tuned to an off tuned piano, or it might have been rerecorded at a slightly lower speed, apparently that was quite common with in the old days of tape.
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It was recorded by the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurie_Johnson"]Laurie Johnson Orchestra[/url], who were one of the worlds top orchestras of the time for recording all sorts of theme tunes and film scores.
[url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cult-TV-Themes-Laurie-Johnson/dp/B00025OHSO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1324629475&sr=8-3"]Here is one of his many albums[/url]

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Almost certainly "varispeeded". A very common technique in recording studios in the 60's and 70's, and the source of enormous frustration for covers band musicians ever since. The Beatles were particularly notorious for this.

A perfect example is the song [i]Revolution[/i]. Listen to the album version (The White Album) and you get a stately pace played in A. For the single they wanted a rather rockier version which they recorded, but it didn't feel right so they speeded it up unti it [i][b]did [/b][/i]feel right. It's now in A#-and-a-half. :lol:

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[quote name='bobbass4k' timestamp='1324617952' post='1476305']
It'ss tricky cos it's really flat, tuned to well below 440 (at least to my ears), this sounds pretty decent to me:

G:-----------6-4---------:
D:-----------------6-4---:
A:-4-444-4-----------7-:
E:-------------------------:

That's tuned about 40 cents flat, tune about as low as your tuner will go and still be the same note and it should sound more or less right.
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this is how i play it too :)

brilliant tune.

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[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1324647335' post='1476629']
this is how i play it too :)

brilliant tune.
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what about the bit at around 50 seconds where it moves up the scale for several bars ?

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[quote name='daz' timestamp='1324653996' post='1476728']
what about the bit at around 50 seconds where it moves up the scale for several bars ?
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i try to act natural, but failing that, smile and act convincing

:)

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[quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1324654195' post='1476735']
i try to act natural, but failing that, smile and act convincing

:)
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Ah, the old 'look professional' stance...... :lol:

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[quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1324654118' post='1476733']
Theme from jason king is better laurie johnson did this as well.
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Surely [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0T43p-xAQY"]that[/url] was by [i]Geoff Love [/i]& orchestra and very pedestrian effort compared to the [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB3F059khLE&feature=related"]Department S theme[/url] which itself was not IMHO as good as the [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPSWrGJjur8"][b]original [/b]avengers theme[/url] :)

Edited by daz

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it was actually Herbie flowers that played the bass on that theme as well as others like the professionals the group laurie Johnson used was the Blue mink club. he has taken part in over 500 recordings for tv etc he also wrote the tune for the novelty hit Grandad for clive dunn. talented man. he used a 1960 jazz bass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBXUP5GqYJs

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im not sure cos i'm at work right now but i think the avengers thing is

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]G:-----------6-4---------:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]D:-----------------6-4---:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]A:-4-444-7-----------6-:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]E:-------------------------:[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]at least on some loops[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]sometmes miiight be[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]G:-----------6-4---------:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]D:-----------------6-4---:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]A:-4-444-6-----------6-:[/font][/color]
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]E:-------------------------:[/font][/color]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Like you said, its hard cos its old muffley 70s tuning and tone,[/font][/color]

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