EBS_freak

[quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1382609411' post='2254244'] The problem with the Bose system is that it was original designed for their pro-sound core market which is Hotelier trade. It was designed as a speech reinforcement unit for conference rooms and alike..... Then decided to market it into the mi arena.... I've heard it work well with acoustic acts but it's never gonna compete in a real life band situation [/quote] Exactly this. If you want old school Bose, get some cheapy cabs, turn them on their side and attach a couple of bog rolls to the front. Job done.

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1382608428' post='2254225'] WE ALWAYS MIC THE KICK. Full stop. [/quote] In keeping with the spirit of the thread, I hope you put a big front of house speaker in front of it too.

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1382608293' post='2254221'] To be fair, I thought that Bose say that this rig is SUPPOSED to go behind the band? This is why I suspect the OP has it set up as such. I can't see it working for a rock band though. [/quote] They are... but the laws of physics pretty much limit it to it being useful in an acoustic setup. For that, they work great. Coffee shops etc, vocals, acoustic, cajon, great... but not with a loud band. They don't give you a great deal of volume even at full pelt... and you won't get there before feedback sets in anyway. Great marketing but not so great (understatement of the year) in practice. I know, I've been there in a band that bought into the concept. I thought it was bad then and my thinking proved to be right. The best thing the OP could do is unload it, not mess around with the latest fads and buy a traditional setup that has been proven as a workable solution for many, many years.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1382607808' post='2254206'] yes definitely buy another one and put that behind the band too it's sure to help cut feedback! [/quote] What? No mention of the Behringer feedback destroyer?

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1382607199' post='2254188'] Quick view on Mackie stuff - if you but anything with electronics in it (power amp, powered cabs, mixer etc) and it breaks then you can head straight to the nearest tip with it. Mackie gear is notoriously difficult to repair, I know one amp tech who pretty much refuses to even consider working on them. A friend of mine had a powered mixer fail recently and the potential cost of repair was way more than it was worth. I realise this can be the case with a few brands but my amp tech says Mackie is one of the worst. Maybe they have proprietary electronics in them that aren't easily replaceable I have to add that putting PA behind the ban is asking for trouble in just about any venue. Even with mics that have a super tight pattern you're going to pick up whatever's being fired at them through those speakers. It's fairly simple logic really - the rear speakers must be louder than the unamplified voices going into your vocal mics. This mean that the vocal mics will undoubtedly be picking up other, potentially loud, noise from the PA = feedback loop. Keeping the volume low and/or tuning the hell out them with a set of graphics will help but then that's going to kill your headroom and/or the sound is going to get pretty nasty. I have used side-fills that fire across the stage at larger venues with some success but with a decent set of monitors (an area where modern tech has really improved quality) I don't think it's really necessary any more. As others have said, I'd try setting up in a more acoustically efficient manner and re-tuning the PA to take this into account before lashing out any more money. [/quote] Stop trolling!

What about the kick drum?

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1382605020' post='2254152'] I was looking for advice on selecting kit - and all you did was troll me. You did that on one of my previous threads. You are now blocked. [/quote] Trolling? Really? Where? Other threads? Show me. Man. Get back on the meds. A block? Yeah, a few gates would probably help with your PA issues too! :-p Good luck!

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1382570442' post='2253942'] Well, "just saying" EBS freak that I have been setting up PAs in band for a long time. At least every other week for the last couple years. And for a long time before that. So, I guess I know what to do - so I have much more than basic skills and rudimentary knowledge. But thanks for your kind advice! [/quote] I would have thought then, you wouldnt be making the novice mistakes that you have talked about in this thread. If you read back through the thread, Ive tried to be nothing but helpful. Go buy your next piece of sh*t and get sh*tty results with that. Time doesnt equal skills gained if the time invested is learning bad practice. Its the same with playing the bass. If that rule stood, everybody on here would have many bass greats standing in their shadow. I repeat what I said earlier. Good luck. :-)

[quote name='The Dark Lord' timestamp='1382565926' post='2253878'] You appear rude. [/quote] Still stands though... Some rudamentary knowledge of how to use a PA would probably yield greater results than throwing more cash at the situation at this point. Just sayin'

Oops. Wrong small company.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1382543978' post='2253477'] Small company, not super equipped to deal with high demand surges. [/quote]

[sup][quote name='molan' timestamp='1382542412' post='2253438'] Vague hints they may be more than initially predicted. . . [/quote][/sup] [sup]Mesa not keen on selling many then? [/sup]

Interested in hearing this bad boy.

I don't want to appear rude here but I certainly would be looking into to some basic skills of using a PA before investing heavily.

Ask Mr East - sounds like you may want to experiment dropping your pickups too.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1382467119' post='2252574'] I have a Korg DT2000 hooked up as follows:- Amp FX Send -> Korg rear input 1 Korg rear output 1 -> Amp FX Return That way I can use the mute switch on the tuner. There is absolutely no tone loss at all. [/quote] OH MY GOD! Not in the signal chain! Think of the tone loss man! Yeah, that aside, seems like a valid solution too!

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382457762' post='2252396'] Yeah - let's have an argument about it. [/quote] I'd rather not ta. [quote] As the OP has an LH1000... no, it isn't. He needs to try out the options and see what works best for him. [/quote] Seems sensible.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1382456756' post='2252378'] But then you're including the tuner in your signal path... an A/B box would allow muted tuning. [/quote] You honestly telling me at a gig, that the tuner is going to have a massive impact on your tone? Pull the other one. It's how it's been designed to work. What would be better would be if there is a mute switch on the amp with a pass through to the tuner. But that's not going to help the OP is is?

No, no, no! The mute is for a pedal so that you can remote mute the ouput from the tuner. Do this.. Bass -> Input 1 -> Using George Ls thin cable, go from Output on the rear of the tuner -> Input on your amp (If it's in a rack case, the George L is thin enough to go between rack units into the input of your amp. Then, using a latched mute, (or maybe unlatched mute - you'd have to read the requirements of the tuner), you can then press your pedal for silent tuning. Press agin, the ouput then becomes live again so the signal goes to your amp. PS There is no front tuner output.

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1382385204' post='2251617'] Yamaha Attitude has low end??? Has anyone told Mr Sheehan? [/quote] Haha!

21db boost in the lows with my GBs. I win.

UEs are great. Sennheisers are a bit hit and miss for me... But the ie8s are cool. Nice bass response. Its amazing how vastly different all the earphones can sound!

Ps what ue have you gone for?

http://www.acscustom.com/uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=39&Itemid=90 Here you go Nige. Must warn you... You may be about to embark on a costly path!

Tx500? They are good but do cost you some treble... And they arent that hardwearing. But the comply tips are about as good as you can get before you get custom moulds. If you want to have a great fit, try some acs tips. I love iems. Im a bit of an iem whore. :-p Got some JH Audios coming soon!