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[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1370692028' post='2104438'] I reckon that John Hall is pretty punk.. And he don't care! [/quote] Ah but he does , it just that his grasp on the real world is pretty vacunt

I'm game.

this is all new to me aswell Milty , you will make massive steps on the first 3 or 4 mixes , and each time more things will fall into place , I am only just starting to understand the advice that was given to me 3 months ago . but learning to listen is way up on the list of things to start with. one thing I have really picked up on , is that when you mess with parts the sound of the actual part does not have to sound full and awesome on its own , you can strip out with EQ loads of the sound spectrum of any one part and it might sound odd, but when you put it in the mix , whats left of it has its own space, can be heard and doesn't interfere sonically with other parts so much. the difficult bit is working out which frequencies of the parts identify the characteristics of the part , and that is one of the next stages for me, so that I can get a feel for what it should sound like and subsequently how to achieve it . it is really brain hurting sometimes , but well worth the effort.

I get the impression when looking back, that punk was a fashion experiment that spawned some great music, loads of crap , but some great stuff.

My notes about the mixes ,all are to be taken with a pinch of the proverbial and may say more about my naivety than ability to mix so here goes A unbalanced, to low bv , vocal to low . (I have already bounced this one off dad) B I thought it was awesome , a lovely reduction of the bass sustain and EQ made it obviously a DB , referencing maybe should be against a DB rather than a generic country track, I had the vision in my head of a DB and that may have coloured my listening . I was happy with the vocal, maybe a touch dry , but not a lot , and the detail in the drums and cymbals cut through nicely with the keys making an appearance , so , yeah if some one can burst my bubble I would welcome it . ed ..noted before the feedback guys C I thought too reverby , like warehouse with a low ceiling , bass was boomy and lacked detail no tinking ride, there is a lovely ride deatail at about 2.20 and lots of mixes missed it. D vocal too low, snare a bit masked and a touch jangly with too much banjo masking the tinking ride but near a vote E bass a touch boomy , but got my vote as it was close on the refernce stuff I used . Well done F too much reverb on vocal , undistiguished bass ,light snare ok again already discussed with Twigman G a bit tinny on the BV and a lack of bass tone , no tinking ride but near a vote H BV a bit to low and bass a bit buried, muddy bottom and heavy kick in parts with a slightly smothered vocal I vocal a bit thick but far too much processing on the drums, gate maybe , an unnatural sound to me . J Light yet muddy real bass tone and vocal too reverby, tooo much twang , missing loads of detail K mixed through a blanket , it completely lacked clarity and now that I know whos it is , the gung ho approach shows, it is probably like mine sounded when I started, so stick at it … L far too much reverb, everything just sounds recorded in a different county , no blend . In summary , my summary and mix notes need as much pulling apart as my mix, but with my limited skills my conclusions in general would be lots of lost detail like bass tone and the ride tinking , the bass needed volume automation to keep it consistent in some of the run downs as it got lost in most mixes, a bit too much twang and reverb on show for my taste, but so interesting to hear everyone elses take on it Great fun, and can't wait for the next one . Kev

Dad , I had a thought the other day, when checking your mix , why not flip your cans round to get a quick assesment of the balance .

Cheers Paul I was B , and a bit surprised on the vocal and reverb comments , the mix was pretty dry of reverb as I am normally guilty of washing all over the thing , but yes while I did strip out a lot of the mud , the bass is a touch boomy even though it has well defined mids , ah well , thanks any way , Just tidying up my notes (for what they are worth) and will post them tommorrow.

Well done Deb , lovely tune and playing , I think your singing is spot on, actually I would have liked more of it , For practice I would suggest singing and recording one line at a time , that way the breathing is easier and makes the note control more even. I have just realsied the summer months aren't condusive to vocal recording , the neighours windows are still open and if I am singing now they might hear it, it is not so bad if I get 1 take in 20 , you guys will hear it , but the neighbours will hear the other 19 aswell

[QUOTE] [b]Mix B[/b] Bass sounds nice, but its very very loud in the mix, BV is rather loud too I think. You struggled with the drums, they arent in a space at all, very very dry indeed, not much evidence of the OH and room mics, which is a shame. Not so twangy and harsh as A though. [/QUOTE] Cheers Si , I'll take that , though the bass does sound a touch louder on the cloud version than on my own wav on my computer , I too on reflection thought the BV a touch too much, but I didn't realise I had a problem with the drums . It will take a while to digest your mix notes , but will try and apply some of the ideas into mine when I get the chance . I have bought some monitor speakers now, so I will have to get a feel for them , I should then have enough to really lose my way . Are mix notes an intrinsic part of the process ? I made a few comments about each mix as I heard them , but I didn't make comprehensive notes about mine , I should probably make an effort to write it down as I do it I guess

I have the format , drums and a few filly bits down(ish) , lyrics ready , the bassline is doing my head in though , I used to do the stuff in my sleep but getting a 3 minute blues line down is just hurting right now, never mind the vocal , I may need some help with that.

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1370455242' post='2101262'] Bloody hell Paul, you weren't lying were you I'm addicted already!! I have recorded all the parts, but may re-record some of the vocals.... Haven't decided yet!! I have had a lot of fun though, even though my song is quite "dark". I have learned soooo much yesterday and today.... I've never used a DAW before, so it's a steep learning curve. So, my fellow basschatters, I think you will be having an entry from a female this month In all honesty, I can't see me getting a single vote, but that's OK as there is some incredible talent on here (which I most certainly haven't developed.... Hopefully yet!). However, the doing is an accomplishment for me in itself, so happy days! [/quote] It sounds all good so far , don't worry about the votes , I use the competition as a kick up my backside to do something I have always wanted to do , so it is the experience, process and the participation that was my motivator , but , when I got a vote I could not believe it , what a buzz , honest , someone liked mine a bit more than the others . I reckon there is a nice person somewhere just doing the nicest things in the world .

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1369390608' post='2088612'] Very chuffed to have two new songs arranged and completed at rehearsal last night. One of them clocks in at an epic 1minute and 25 seconds! [/quote] play it twice ( with no gaps )

[quote name='Dr.Dave' timestamp='1370291968' post='2098820'] That's how I did it. I'm not the best in the world but I can think I am - sometimes that's just as useful. [/quote] I reckon I am the best singer in the world , the only issue is, everyone else in the world doesn't have the skill to appreciatte it. its a shame as they are missing out and end up listening to the likes of Take That .....learn to listen peeps , don't take in the ridiculous notion that you need to hit a tune to sing , just get stubborn , Ps ..I reckon Dr Dave can walk the walk though

Lyrics done , though that means it may well end up instrumental

I have got a couple of ideas , but I am wary of letting on , only because I will probably find I can't do it and have to change the style completely , but I think a blues theme might be my general direction

Of all the styles that this picture seems to inspire and subliminaly suggest , I still have that country twang thing running through my head

I may be missing some thing on this , but nearly every room you play will affect your tone in a different way , If you are looking for a 'one setting fits all ' solution you won't get it , go wireless or get a long lead and make your way to the back of the pub and do your sound check there . you will have to run back and to for any amp EQ, but it will give you a clue and a much better feel the sound you are producing

Any news ? who is going to be next to pick up the baton

When I got married , I had no kit at all, it had long gone , but as stories go Mrs Lurks recalled some of the bass telling and asked the neighbour to pick one and she bought it for my birthday , as time goes by , said neighbour needs a bass player for his band , and yours truly steps up, I have moved to a different band since , but we all know who to blame when the issue of bass playing crops up . I think she is relatively supportive, though likes the occassional comment when stuff gets delivered , but as I keep explaining, it is a relatively inexpensive hobby, fund generating and probably less time consuming than the likes of golf etc

It sounds like the signal is to hot so the compressor is trying too hard and not coping , you will probably need to re-set the input signal to a more manageable level .

I know mass is the thing , I fit new double glazing and throw away loads of old double glazed sashes and the like , it wont absorb noise but will help add mass if used to fill a cavity between rooms to prevent seepage , just PM me and come and collect , it might save a bit of landfill if it works for you .

I never look at the plucking hand ....except last gig.... there were only 4 peeps left at the gig ( B/H , good weather , loads of local festivals , excuse etc etc ) , so I joined them on the dance floor . cue well oiled young lady drapes herself over me , and pretends to play strum style over my right hand . being polite and the song being Dakota , the right hand just does a LOT of repetetive finger flicking so I demonstrate this to her , she cannot quite get it , and looking at my technique , says it looks quite rude , at this point I think my technique is working , except the young lady makes her excuses , walks off the dance floor and pukes her way back to her seat.... class. I like to think the potential of my technique sent her head into a spin , though more likely the close encounter just turned her stomach

I thought flats on a fretless was the law ..... and I have flats on all bar my newest and that wont be long ed cos I hit the post button too quick

I get most of that Dad but I thought the vocal on yours was a touch low in the mix , both lead and BV , and I thought the mix slightly unbalanced , a touch strong on one side, but hey , you got more votes than me , well done

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1369994647' post='2095262'] What he said.... [/quote] You Got a Vote !!!!!! it can't have been that bad my notes on yours where that there was too much reverb on vocal , undisdiguished bass , not muddy but no real ID of the DB tone ( I think most were like that though) ,and the snare seemed a bit thin , overall good. Not a very technical appraisal I am sorry , just one from my own ear , I did try to calibrate my ears before I listened though