binky_bass

Excellent guy to deal with, great contact, fast and easy transaction. Even when I thought there was an issue, he phoned up straight away to discuss, fortunately there was no issue, twas just a case of a dodgy cable! would definitely recommend and deal with again. top marks sir! Russ

I did not ask for favourable treatment, I did not know he had any affiliation to basschat until he mentioned it in those texts. And as far as I can tell eBay do not stipulated that the use of the cancellation tool is exclusively for lost or broken items. I believe my stated reason from their drop down list was 'item is no longer available for sale'. The buyer could of not accept the request, but he did, so why is that not the end of this? If he had issues then they should have been discussed with me and/or ebay. Which they were, and I have shown on here. I did not pressure him to accept the cancellation. If he fought the case and I still refused I would accept this level of negativity towards me, but as it was amicably resolved and he was happy to end it I just don't see the huge issue.

Ambient you are massively right. and warwickhunt, I get the impression you want to just wind me up. Saying 'wow, you actually believe that...' it is fact my friend, absolutely provable fact. If you chose no matter what to think otheriwse I can't change your mind, but your obsession on proving me to be the devil is a little odd. Everything in my above message is provable, so yes, wow... I obviously believe it. I trust your enjoying this crusade of yours? Maybe you should tell us what terrible things you have done in your life and we'll all pass judgement on that. Bet you've done something at some pont that trumps sending an auction cancellation request to someone, and them accepting it.

There is no moral obligation and I haven't broken any ebay rules, I sent a 'cancel sale' request via ebay (why would they give you this option if it was against their rules??) And it was accepted, I spoke to fiatcoupe (as per texts shown on my previous post) and he was fine with it. So I repeat, what is the problem??? I acted in line with ebay rules, I have been totally honest, the buyer accepted, we talked and were friendly, so please tell me what the deal is here?? Honestly, how have I broken rules? Everything has been done in line with rules and regulations. And more to the point the conversations I have shown on here between me and fiat have been friendly and amicable. So once more, what have I done wrong? The only person here who seems to actually understand these points is Ambient, and he left his posts before I even knew this thread existed!!! So please, tell me how I have broken rules or acted morally wrong when I have actes by the book written by ebay. If the seller agrees to a cancellation then that's the end of that surely? No broke rules or morality.

Anything else you want amended?

It really seems you dont understand the concept of someone being OK and happy to cancel the deal... you are determine to demonise my actions, whatever man, I am very bored of this. I have done everything I can to explain and set this right. I'll keep an eye on this thread and answer any questions that pop up but if you are hell bent on making me the enemy the knock yourself out man.

I hope so too... though my text transcripts surely prove a point? Either way, hopefully fiatcoupe will return to confirm...

Also can we refrain from using derogatory terms... it seems that you're insistent on not listening to the fact I asked the seller to cancel and he said yes... not sure that's 'welching' when you get a request granted. Again this does need fiatcoupe to weigh in here to set things straight.

As the person being debated here I am happy for this discussion to remain open. However the input of fiatcoupe would be very welcome right now to confirm what I have said.

There are no differing standards, however given the fact the buyer was happy to cancel the sale, that fact changes this. You act as if I have committed a crime... I asked to cancel the sale, he said yes. Why is this anything more than that?

Seems amicible and friendly to me... no bad words, no negitivity at all, so the cancellation went through with no issues. If it was not amicible, things would be different. I've said my piece, sorry for any issues this has caused, but I've said everything I can say, and been as open and honest as humanly possible. Hopefully this wont be the demise of me on Basschat...

The fact of the matter is you are entitled to your opinion, I cant change that, but I would of thought an in depth explanation would help remedy this opinion, that doesnt seem to be the case. I've been open and honest, I've discussed this with the buyer, and if the buyer insisted on following through with the purchase, denying my request to cancel the auction, the case could easily have been that I would of had little choice but to sell it. that wasn't the case though, The buyer granted my request, that really should be the end of it, there were no bad words between us, so I don't know why everyone else thinks this is the crime of the century. If I had been rude with fiat, or been totally unreasonable I would share your opinion, but he granted my request with no hard feelings. Below is out text convo.... Hi mate I'm the guy who won the bass on eBay! Are u on basschat? I am, (binky_bass). Did you get my message on ebay and my request to cancel the auction? I'm really sorry mate, but I simply can't let it go for that little! I should have put a reserve on it or something, I guess niche instruments simply don't do well on eBay. Russ. Ok I do remember this on basschat! How much u are looking for it? And just because it's you(basschatter) I'm not gonna leave any feedback and I'll accept the request now I really appreciate that mate, it's totally my bad for not putting a reserve on it. To be brutality honest, my bottom line on this would be £470 and that would include insuranced postage. I will be listing it on basschat in a few days for £550 not including postage. Again, really sorry man and thanks again, Russ. Hey Russ don't worry mate ! Try to sell for more if you can;-) hey mate I'm actually having problem to cancel the winning! When I press the respond now opens a new page and says it's invalid! Any clue? Not sure man, haven't really done this before! On my side it says if you don't respond in 7 days the cancellation goes through anyway so if you don't figure it out then just leave it and it will sort itself! Thanks man. I'll try do it on my laptop!

In addition, I have withdrawn the bass for sale, and have asked the one person who PM'd about the bass to read this thread first before going any further with his interest on this bass.

Prehaps its not the most honor worthy thing I have ever done in my life, but Fiatcoupe did agree, it was not contested. If it was, we would be having a very different discussion. It was agreed by both parties... and i was honest from the outset and transparent about EVERYTHING. If i'd of seen this thread before, I would have been transparent all the way, as I have been with fiatcoupe from the outset and as I have been now.

I was 100% clear with the buyer, if there was any bad vibes or bad words etc we would have dealt with it at the time. I requested to cancel the sale, he agreed, if he did not agree then we would be in a different situation. Fact is I asked to cancel, he said yes. I do not see how this is wrong doing. Being classed as a con man because you don't know the facts is ridiculous and very narrow minded. I spoke to fiatcoupe and he said he will add a post to clear things up. So I am hoping he does as this is all very out of hand. My god this is crazy... Not something i expected. And as for morally worng, yes, I would agree if i'd taken his money and never sent the bass, but i sent him the text I did saying I really didnt want to sell it, blah blah, youve all read it... and fiatcoupe said ok, no worries, what else am i suppose to do? Yes I should have put a reserve, this was discussed with fiatcoupe, we spoke in a friendly way and ended things in a friendly way, so i dont understand this epically unreasonable reaction from assumptions. This is our issue, not yours, we dealt with it happily between us and that is it. Fiatcoupe, your thoughts here would be very appreciated man!

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1405961836' post='2506989'] Dear Non-Seller. Look at the shiytstorm of bad will you've stired up on here. Next time, or such a specialised item like a 7 string bass- just pay your basschat subs and advertise it on here! cheers LukeFRC [/quote] I have paid my basschat subs for the year some time ago! I simply chose not to list it on here...

[quote name='watton_earth' timestamp='1406055266' post='2507918'] When it's listed again, or any thing else they sell for that matter, make sure you place the winning bid...then write back and say that you couldn't possibly buy it for that price and you are only willing to buy it for what it's worth.... I am sure they will see that you are being reasonable.... Edit Don't listen to me I'm full of useless advice, you may be legally obliged to pay.... [/quote] Really? I though people had better caliber than this...

[quote name='blamelouis' timestamp='1406055631' post='2507921'] What a scumbag ...out him. [/quote] Nice, real nice... This thread is about me and my 7 string jazz.... Having just phoned fiatcoupe he tells me this thread was started prior to actualy contact by me to him regarding this... I made contact with him pretty much as soon as the auction ended, but alas i was too late and this thread was started... This is a bit of a dangerous precedent here... it seems that a fair chunk of band wagon jumping has occurred without people actually knowing the full facts. Luckily fiatcoupe is very reasonable and our chat (over the phone minutes ago) cleared up a few things in terms of timelines etc. The end result being we did indeed amicibly agree to not go through with the sale, (I am happy to provide text message transcripts of our convos if he is happy for me to disclose them) Nothing is a miss here, nothing sketchy was done, nothing underhanded and nothing that deserves me being called a scum bag... which is just childish in my opinion. I understand that it is not a popular decision to bail out of a sale, but fiatcoupe was fine with it and we talked out the situation and ended on a friendly basis. Please take note from this and dont witch hunt until both sides are heard. I have a decent reputation on here, and don't really want it destroyed over a misunderstanding. Thanks, Russ.