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the mix on most modern recordings (and a lot of older ones) is drum heavy bass light, I was listening to Status Quo's Quo album the other day, now that's a bass players mix, funny thing is when they do a 'digital remaster' they bring the bass up, the Beatles and the Clash are 2 examples I've come across

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1465202925' post='3065969'] In my rock covers band, I use a pick if the original song was played with a pick. I try to keep the sound close to the original as I can. However, the last gig I played, I forgot my picks and played the whole set fingerstyle. TBH, nobody noticed. [/quote]about the only time I've noticed a big difference between pick and fingers was when the bassist was using a Rick, fingers it sounded ok tbh, then he played a couple of songs with a pick, clank clank clank, but then again Macca played one with a pick and he sounded ok

don't know really, lots of the best bassists use picks, Macca, Carol Kaye, J J Burnel to name but 3, but most bassists seem to use finger style maybe that's it, I've always used a pick because most punk players seem to use a pick. I started as a guitarist, that's got something to do with it, although perversely I have learned finger picking on acoustic, though still have no wish to do so on a bass. To answer your question I think most bass players are cool with whichever way you play and a lot can do both

there's a thread going at the moment about the Behringer BDI21, it's a very cheap option

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1465089074' post='3065243'] . I'm not bothered about the sound at home. I'm practising so the important bit is getting the fingers and brain around the new part and not what it sounds like. [/quote]this, when I practice at home I plug into my laptop and use headphones and play along to tracks, if needed I use audacity to slow stuff down, change key, and work things out

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1465067410' post='3065124'] Is the overall opinion tipping towards "disappointing" rather than "positive"? [/quote]it's a good pedal for £20, adds a bit of overdrive which I like, and works as a DI box if you think you'll need it, but I'll keep using my Zoom B1on which does the same thing and a lot more besides, but I'll be keeping it, you never know when it'll come in handy, so a positive I suppose

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1465066146' post='3065115'] I mean it! The examples in the instructions are for the guitar version. [/quote]there you go courtesy of tauzero https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0294/BDI21_P0294_M_EN.pdf the instructions in the box are a complete f*** up

to be fair bass overdrive circuits do get fuzzy when turned up, I've got a Rumble 500 with an overdrive section, that sounds bloody awful IMO anyway

no, that's what a volume control is for, I sometimes use mine at low volumes it sounds fine, it's not like you've got valves to overdrive is it? IMO the only reason to get a 100 is size (not weight, but the 500 can be a bit bulky) and price, if nether one is a particular problem I say go for the 500

[quote name='Cosmo Valdemar' timestamp='1464995969' post='3064607'] Mine arrived today. I'm a bit worried I've got a duff one as the drive knob does very little - it seems to act as a volume control until the very last turn of the knob when a heavy (and quite unpleasant) farty overdrive kicks in. Surely this isn't normal? [/quote]mines the same now you mention it

[quote name='chriswareham' timestamp='1464966112' post='3064237'] The printed sheet that comes with the pedal has the sample settings for the lead guitar version, but the online PDF on the Beringer website has the bass settings. [/quote]right, that clears that up then, thanks, bit naff though, how much effort is required to enclose the right instruction sheet?

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1464968291' post='3064268'] You play just using your amp with nothing going through FOH? [/quote]usually, but if we play a venue with a full PA I've never come across one that doesn't have have there own DI box, plus my Trace Elliot amp has a balanced DI out

[quote name='tauzero' timestamp='1464890516' post='3063613'] I'm struggling to understand your meaning here. The PDF of the manual [url="https://media.music-group.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0294/BDI21_P0294_M_EN.pdf"]https://media.music-..._P0294_M_EN.pdf[/url] has a number 10 (the input socket), the sample settings show all 6 knobs and no switches. Have you got the right instructions? [/quote]thanks for that, the instruction sheet I got with my BD121 is different to that

[quote name='synthaside' timestamp='1464884369' post='3063531'] B1on doesnt have a XLR DI out does it ? I use mine with a b3 as a volume / tone shaping pedal , stomp on for when we do a Jam track to give me that big up in front middy in the mix with a little distortion. saves a whole load of faffing to have 3-4 tones on tap. [/quote]no it doesn't have an XLR out, but I never need one when gigging, that's why I thought it might be good for recording, If I want a different tone for a particular track I just program another patch on the B1on, saves having 2 pedals

just got mine, doesn't seem to do anything that my zoom B1on doesn't do, still at this price I'll keep it, might come in handy for recording with, one thing though, what's with getting the numbers are wrong in the instructions? (there's no 10 on the diagrams) doesn't inspire confidence in quality control does it, and what's with those the switches on the sample settings and no blend or presence settings?, very confusing

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1464787076' post='3062518'] FWIW...the biggest pulling bands around here are mostly ska bands... as you get all the white guys who can't dance go to those If they are half reasonable..they'll be around the £500 mark... simply because they are worth it in bar take. [/quote]yep it's the same round Nottingham as well, the Ska and Mod bands go down well which means they get more money, fair enough I say

usually about £250 is the going rate, but it does depend how many punters you can draw, a couple of bands I know that draw good crowds go out for £500 and £650, if you can more or less guarantee filling the pubs they'll pay because they make a profit, if you only get a handful in the pub, they'll be unhappy about paying anything, the university of the bleedin obvious really

it can be very frustrating, luck has a lot to do with it, right place right time and all that, we've never had much luck with CD's, DVD's, they just don't listen to them, you just have to keep plugging away and try not to get disheartened, pub landlords get inundated with gig requests also they're very lazy about checking bands out, so most of the time it's just catching them at the right time, if they say they'll get back to you they probably won't

[quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1464518876' post='3059986'] Just be careful to tick the free delivery option. I clicked 'buy with one click' and got charged for postage. Have cancelled and reordered. [/quote]yeah I did that, sneaky bastards

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1464516868' post='3059964'] Why does everyone want to play in the dark? The sky's the limit with stage lighting but at least get a couple of boxes with about 4 bulbs each and put them either side of the stage pointing back at the band. If the gig isn't professional enough to have some sort of lighting for the band, bring your own. A basic 2 box system will look fine and a bunch of dark shapes huddled in the corner looks so amateurish. [/quote]well, sometimes we'll be playing on a multi band bill where you just turn up with your bass and plug in, so you have to be ready for anything really, but yeah we've got a couple PAR64 LED's that usually throw out enough light, till the singers gets his bloody great head in the way, and because I'm so vain I always wear sunglasses which doesn't help

I've gone the whole hog after struggling to see on dark stages, I know some will get all sniffy about it but at least it cuts done the number of bum notes, it's luminus tape btw, works a treat

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1463645612' post='3052985'] Bands have always been plagued by egos. I can deal with an over active ego if the guy can back it up. The good musicians I've known have always known they were good. Some had over active egos and some didn't, but anyone who stands in front of other people and says "look at me and what I'm doing" has to have a larger ego than most. [/quote]yep, a front man with no ego is not going to be very good, nothing wrong with having a big ego as long as you realise you have and can therefore keep it in check when required

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1463499534' post='3051843'] I'm 63, playing 4 hours is a piece of cake for me. The tear down is a little rough on me , but that's ok too. Blue [/quote]no disrespect Blue, but the point I was making was that if we just stood there and played, 4 hours would be ok but we do a lot of jumping around and play all fast punky stuff (hard work for the drummer), no 10 minute blues style guitar solo's in our set, that may not be the case in your band of course but I would imagine you have songs where you take a 'breather'

there's no way the band I play in could do 4 hours with the effort we put in (punk) I'm in my sixties but our drummer is 28 and he is absolutely shattered at the end of 2 x 1hour sets plus encores

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1463433139' post='3051367'] Pretty much the same as bonzodog. Played with a pick most of my playing life. Not sure why, maybe its because i also played a bit of guitar first. I dont really like the tone most of the time. I have started playing with fingers at home but my drummer insists on playing everything so fast so i use a pick as my fingers cant keep up. Its a viscous cycle at the moment. [/quote]sounds like my sort of drummer