PaulWarning

it's not just about sound quality, the ambiance is vital to the listening experience, how many of us have enjoyed listening to records on a clapped out pub juke box? the enjoyment is nothing to do with the sound quality it's about our mood and the atmosphere which, for some, is enhanced by putting vinyl on a turntable

yeah the head shouldn't be too much trouble, I have a Trace Elliot head that weighs about 13Kg, an easy one handed lift, that I use with a light weight cab.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1481213707' post='3190648'] f*** 'em. [/quote]yep, I feel next to nothing when someone I don't know dies

the thing is you do feel like you know them when someone dies who you admire and grew up with so it's only natural that you feel some sort of loss and sadness when they die, as for 2016 being a terrible year, no it hasn't, we're all getting older so the people we admire and like for whatever reason are likely to be a bit older, so 2017 is likely to be as bad if not worse

Vinyl is also synonymous with the golden age of rock and roll and pop, it's no coincidence that the vinyl top 10 is almost all old stuff, nostalgia is a powerful force look at the love for steam trains and WWII planes, it's not going anywhere I agree with a few post on here, you're far more likely to listen to the whole album (well one side at least) on vinyl than CD, digital downloads have been a disaster for whole albums as a piece of work

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1481129363' post='3189915'] In the last year I've noticed a lot more bands selling vinyl on their merch stands at gigs. I think the demand is expanding beyond the old guy/nostalgia/audio snob market. [/quote]that's true, 10 years ago minor bands wouldn't have dreamed of releasing their stuff on vinyl

I heard this morning that Vinyl out sold digital downloads this morning, in monetary terms anyway, not that surprising with vinyl costing £25 a pop (new Stones LP) and loads of streaming services it is a bit of a distorted statement, I imagine they'll be a few Dads getting it Blues and Lonesome on Christmas morning, can't say I'll be going back to vinyl at those prices, nostalgia comes at a price I'm not prepared to pay, but who'd have thought 20 years ago? I still enjoy getting an LP out and putting it on the turntable but at my age I would wouldn't I?

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1480996215' post='3188822'] If they were really good I might buy em a beer [/quote]nobody has ever bought me a beer

I'll have a chat if there's something I want to ask them, but I'm rubbish at inane chit chat with people, I leave that to our singer he's in his element talking about himself I'll mention basschat if it seems relevant to the conversation

chromatic runs always make me smile, the Clash's London Calling has a 4 note chromatic run in it, how does that work? no doubt someone will enlighten me, but till then I'll stick to my maxim, If it sounds good it is good

scales on bass are quiet easy really because unlike a guitar all strings go up in 5 fret intervals, so once you're got a scale shape it's movable everywhere, start with major and minor scales it does help to understand why you're playing certain notes, although it's not essential, quiet often I'll play a bass run that doesn't follow those scales sounds alright though, I was doing a bass run for years before I found out it was the pentatonic minor scale

[quote name='Twigman' timestamp='1480767284' post='3186981'] 60% of the door plus expenses [/quote]bloody hell we'd get f*** all, 95% of our gigs are free entry

you'll get paid what the market will stand, if other bands are willing to play for that, then they'll get the gigs, assuming other things are equal, unless you drag a big crowd in you won't get as many gigs, the laws of supply and demand are everywhere

so not a lot then, apart from a few hundred quid on the price

so what's the difference between a pro and a standard?

well I've just tried my cheapo Wilson Rapier guitar through my Trace Elliot AH250SMX head and Fender Rumble 2 x 10 cab with my zoom B1on pedal set to Hall reverb and then with the bass muff for distortion, and it sounds pretty damned good cheers Dad

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1480501411' post='3184824'] It'll sound fine, but won't give of its best without a pedal or two. A bit of delay, a decent reverb, maybe a spot of overdrive if that's what you like. Electric guitars have their sound greatly through the use of pedals, especially in home practise territory. Just my tuppence-worth. [/quote]not trying to pick a fight btw, if you've had good results like this good for you, but this is a genuine question (not sarcasm) isn't delay and reverb more or less the same thing?

you'd probably be better off buying a cheap practice amp, I've tried it with a distortion pedal and as BigRed alludes too the results aren't good, I use an old Roland Dac 15 I got from a pawn shop for about £30

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1480439901' post='3184429'] I'd be a good candidate for a pro band. I'm not married,no girlfriend,my kids are adults and I don't have a day job. I can get up and leave anytime on short notice. Blue [/quote]same here Blue, but I'm not sure I'd fancy driving a few hundred miles to play to 12 people and get back a 3am

our drummer used to play with a 'professional' band, i.e. they played originals gigs all over the country, he had to quit because he just couldn't keep getting to gigs at the other end of the country on weekdays, if you're a self employed plumber or something it's doable, but if you're got a 'proper' job I don't see how, and it doesn't sound like it will pay enough to support you if all the others have jobs, Another band I know have sold 5 - 6K of their latest album and haven't seen a bean, all the money goes on 'promotional expenses' according to the small record company anyway

I've seen quite a few left handed bassists playing right handed basses without changing the strings round, makes no difference if it's what you're used too and you don't play chords on a bass, once saw a Rolling Stones covers band where both guitarist played left handed on right handed guitars, asked them if the chords were harder to play, "some are some are easier" came the reply

never heard Trace accused of being underpowered before

slightly off topic but relevant to the volume, we did a gig last Saturday where we had to sign a form saying we wouldn't go above a certain decibel level, of course we hadn't got a clue how loud that was, but the venue were happy, said they'd had a couple of bands on recently that they wouldn't book again because they were too loud, I'm afraid you just have to except that people want to chat when they go to a pub, not just listen to music, doesn't mean they're not enjoying it just because they're not giving you their undivided attention

[quote name='Skinnyman' timestamp='1479640844' post='3177989'] First gig with the PRO17s last night and they were...., well, not quite what I thought. First the good. This was a CIU club with a stage, low ceiling and strangely muffled acoustic. Guitarist's amp right behind me and turned up to usual. Drummer to my right hitting everything in sight with gay abandon. I don't think I could have done the gig without the earplugs. I took them out for one song and quickly shoved them back in. They were completely comfortable to the extent that I didn't really know I had them in. Other than the noise being turned down, that is. I could hear everything well. Even my bass which, without the plugs, was being drowned out by the guitar. But the odd bit (I won't call it "the bad") is that everything felt a bit......, meh. I'm not sure how to describe it. Just everything was a bit 'remote' and the songs sounded a bit flat and lifeless to the extent that I found myself overplaying to try and drive some life into them. I'm hoping that this is just a combination of me getting having to get used to the plugs and the strange on-stage sound we had at that venue (friends in the audience said the mix and volume were spot on so clearly it was just the onstage acoustics that were horrid). Everything else about these is perfect, I guess I now just need to get used to the way that the band sounds while I'm wearing them. [/quote]I know what you mean, I've never got over it, I wear an ACS in the ear nearest the drummer and a 'christmas tree' one in the other which I can move in and out to get the rid of the feeling of muffled remoteness, but then again I'm a bit deaf anyway

[quote name='lojo' timestamp='1479407354' post='3176367'] I could take a P, a J or a Ray to rehearsal or gig , and the most is get is "that's a nice colour" not sure the band hear any difference live [/quote]yep, eq settings have a lot bigger effect than what type of bass it is, I've just used a P for the last 6 or 7 years, having said that I'm waiting for a VM Squier Jazz I've just bought of Ebay to arrive with a view to fitting humbuckers to it, just can't stop messing around can we?