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[quote name='peteb' timestamp='1502984190' post='3354873'] I once did a dep gig where the only full time member was the singer (although though the dep drummer used to play nearly as many of their gigs as the official drummer). A couple of months later they did a gig where everybody on stage was a dep - even the singer / band leader couldn't make t...! [/quote]wasn't Dr Feelgood was it?

[quote name='seashell' timestamp='1502969493' post='3354716'] Thanks for 'going on', John! This is an interesting checklist for me as I have my first (proper) dep gig coming up on Sat and I'm still a bit concerned about a couple of the things on your list. In particular, song arrangements. They are all Rolling Stones covers, one or two in different keys which they have told me of in advance and I'm fine with. It's just the arrangements I'm concerned about. If they are exactly as per the original recording then fine, but if they suddenly chuck in an extra chorus or do a longer/shorter intro then I'll need to be on my toes! Also how are they ending the ones that fade out on recordings? Plus I still don't know the estimated start time. Just been told we're 'last on'. Also been told 'don't worry, have fun, it's just a charity gig'. I'm not really comfortable with that attitude - there is still an audience there who are going to want to enjoy it. I don't expect they'll mind if I don't sound exactly like Bill Wyman, but I think they might notice if I'm still playing a final chorus when the rest of the band have stopped, lol! :-) Having said all that, I'm still looking forward to it. I was really pleased to be asked (I previously played in a different Stones covers band and sax player who is in both bands recommended me). And I love playing all those old Stones hits, so as long as I turn up at the right place and time I think I can probably wing it!!! :-) [/quote]this sort of cropped up at recent gig, a friends band were doing Holiday in Cambodia, as we do, our singer was asked to go up on guest vocals of course up he gets, I'm thinking I wonder if they're doing the album or single version, I counted the length of the solo, single version, as we do, they get to the end where we do the album version outro, our singer did it, the rest of the band did the shorter single version, a complete car crash ensued

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1502964860' post='3354669'] We're doing a gig in about three weeks with a dep drummer. I won't lie that I am a little concerned...I think we have one rehearsal with him and another half rehearsal (we're playing another gig the night after the first gig and want to have a run through with our actual drummer). Our original guitarist came back for a show once, we did do a set based more around his tenure within the band and that went OK. [/quote]at least drummers can't play the wrong notes we've only used deps twice and that was old members helping us out, never used a total 'outsider' can't say I'm keen, as Hiram said it just wouldn't be the same, even well rehearsed deps do things differently, when you go and see a favorite band with a different line up it's never quite the same, if any members of ours are unavailable we don't do the gig, doesn't happen very often, we're all only in one band

[quote name='Mickeyboro' timestamp='1502893833' post='3354225'] Was it an airbus? [/quote] [quote name='Meddle' timestamp='1502917704' post='3354426'] Too soon, man. Too soon. [/quote]yep, there are some people bad taste jokes don't work on, Buddy Holly is one of them, I've always found he has total respect

still not heard from anybody that's hired a dep and it's not worked out for whatever reason, have they always been a success then? because I've seen them, one dep guitarist I saw used a music stand (fair enough) but was really low in the mix, when you could hear him you knew why

this has cropped up in a current thread, http://basschat.co.uk/topic/310399-should-i-cancel-gig-i-am-going-to-for-my-bands-gig/page__pid__3354119#entry3354119, I didn't want to take it off subject and it's something I've always thought wasn't a very good idea, in an originals band especially, anybody got some good and bad stories about using deps? is it worth risking your bands reputation by having a car crash gig?I'm not talking regular deps here, we used our old drummer at the weekend for instance, but as a one off

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1502837775' post='3353918'] [b]Buddy Holly's Tour Bus, 1958[/b] 'Er Indoors and The Boy are in Seattle visiting relatives. They went out for dinner this evening and came across this - Buddy Holly's Tour Bus, 1958. And they sent me a picture. Amazing that it still exists. Felt a bit weird seeing it really, a mixture of incredulity, a sense of musical history and an unexpectedly poignant feeling, too. Or maybe that's just the drugs. [/quote]shame he didn't stay on the bus

[quote name='DaveFry' timestamp='1502878054' post='3354081'] When Buddy Holly & The Crickets landed back in the US of A after their world tour in May '58 with cash in their pockets they decided to buy motorcycles and ride home the 350 miles . The three of them caught a cab to the nearest motorcycle dealer's shop in the right direction . The Harley Davidson dealer thought they were just time-wasting kids and threw them out , so they tried the next shop , which happened to sell British bikes . Here they were recognised and treated like royalty so they rode home though a thunderstorm on two Triumphs and an Ariel . Rock 'n Roll ! Buddy's '58 650cc Ariel Cylone was up for auction 3 years ago :- [url="https://www.autoevolution.com/news/buddy-hollys-ariel-cyclone-bike-under-the-hammer-photo-gallery-86354.html"]https://www.autoevol...lery-86354.html[/url] [/quote]thanks for that, hadn't heard that before I always wondered why they were riding British Bikes in a well aired film of them riding round Lubbock on motorbikes

[quote name='Osiris' timestamp='1502872564' post='3354007'] We use an online calendar that each band member can access to avoid this type of situation. But that only works if everyone actually fills it in.... In your situation, I'd not only take the wife to the gig that you have tickets for, but I'd also be on the look out for a new band to join. [/quote]this, if someone says they're unavailable a gig shouldn't get booked, simple, on the other hand if anybody'e forgot to fill in the calendar I would expect them to do the gig, having said all that we do double check with everyone before confirming any gig

the EQ on the Rumble is a bit limited but try turn the bass knob down it cuts around the 80Hz mark, just in case you haven't got it here's the what all the controls do Bass: +/- 15dB @ 80Hz Low mid: +/- 12dB @ 280Hz High mid: +/- 12dB @ 1.2kHz Treble: +/- 15dB @ 10kHz Bright: +13dB @ 10kHz Contour: +1dB @ 80Hz, -13dB @ 670Hz, +2dB @ 8kHz Vintage: dynamic compression (-9dB max) with low pass (-6dB/oct) @ 400Hz EQ chain is: Bright > Vintage > O/D > Contour > EQ

yeah, bass frequencies are the ones that soak up the power, that's why we need 500 watt amps and guitarists need 50 (unfortunately not all of them understand this)

all Lloyd Webber songs sound the same to me, can't stand musicals

[quote name='Wolverinebass' timestamp='1502617971' post='3352433'] I would imagine that most people don't have Trace Elliot stuff is because the Elf head date continues to be pushed back. Ha! However, on a serious note, I still have my old boxer 15 practice and which still works perfectly after 18 years. [/quote]I may be wrong but the Elf is going to be nothing like the old Trace stuff, can't really see the point of having a head that small, a class D with no graphic, how can it be?

u block didn't work for me, having said that I've not had it for a few weeks now

easy, long strap, at least below the waist and play with a pick

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1502448325' post='3351496'] Indeed, far more accurate. Here's my result (Yes, I know; I'm deaf ...)... Far from the 'Under 25' that the other rubbish test gave. Jokers..! [/quote]hey congratulations I do believe you're deafer than me, I too have the fall off a cliff at 4K but goes back up for 8K

find out when they are available, get it down in a band calendar, book the gigs for then, of course if they're unavailable at short notice it sounds like a massive headache to me

30 to 40 what a load of bollocks I know I'm deaf this is a far better test, mimics what audiologist use https://hearingtest.online/

[quote name='jay-syncro' timestamp='1502389980' post='3351190'] I bought an 250 SMX about a month ago on BC out of curiosity, have since done 8 gigs with it and am absolutely in awe.. It's ridiculously loud, has every conceivable feature you could want, and is compact and not at all heavy. I love it. How is it SOO much louder than amps with three or four times the power? Witchcraft I imagine. [/quote]here's the answer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fI6YbqrRK3g&t=188s I think sometimes they left out the anti gravity juice though

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1502386883' post='3351165'] Not sure why Paul has not considered contacting Fender, given a similar thread and scenario a few weeks ago with a different Fender Amp.....has to be worth a shot, it will cost you an email/phone call!!! Oh, and the other amp was s/h too and Fender replaced it. [/quote]I've got extended warranty from Gear4music, contacted them and they said send it back but it cost £10 and I haven't got the original packaging, wanted to find out if it was worth a punt before I did that, my thinking was that Fender wouldn't replace speakers just say I had abused it, can you post a link to that thread please?

[quote name='Muppet' timestamp='1502374769' post='3351054'] This is V3? How old is it? No problems with mine but I don't push it.....maybe I'll look to see what speakers are in it. [/quote]2014 bought it second hand, had a look at the speakers not much info apart from made in China, Eminence 16 Ohm and some numbers which don't seem to be part numbers, I don't think they're Neo's

Took my Rumble in for repair suspecting a blown speaker(s) the guy told me Fender had loads of these back and had stopped using the Chinese made ones, the thing is I've got extended 5 year warranty on it but assumed Fender wouldn't replace the speakers under warranty, now I'm beginning to think it might be worth the £10 postage to send it back, anybody else had experience with dodgy Rumble speakers?

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1502226566' post='3350151'] Sortof, we played on Fri in the Arena. Obviously I didn`t hear that, but the bands which I heard that had a trebly bass, rather than bassy bass (if that makes sense) sounded great. Skurvi for example, in The Pavillion on Thu were excellent, Liams bass having hi-mids and treble boosted, rather than low end, sounded great. Likewise with JJ of The Last Resort in The Empress on Sunday, again a good deal of high-end on his bass. I think that`s the trick to Rebellion as many bands did seem to have a "wampy" sound. I`ve heard a recording of us - it`s on youtube - and my bass was its usual trebly aggressive sound, and clear as anything in the mix. [/quote]I saw you do this song, the bass is more prominent in the vid than I remember live although your lot did get an above average sound for that stage, wouldn't say your sound is trebly (from the video anyway) about right really, a middy sound that cuts through, but then again I have to take out my hearing aids at gigs lol

[quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1502195523' post='3349901'] 'Bass drum' is a bloody misnomer. I like bass drums that are small and sound tight and poppy, they should 'thud' with a very quick decay rather than 'boom' in the dreadful, floppy sounding way so many do now. Live sound is often dreadful for a variety of reasons, but sadly I get the impression that a lot of sound engineers create a bad mix and then try to mask the dreadful tone by banging the volume right up until you end up with an ear-splitting mush. That's what I got when I saw Big Country at the O2 in Newcastle a couple of years ago. Deafeningly loud; a dreadful mess of booming bass and drums and piercing high end. Mike Peters' vocal mix was awful too, and he was frequently howling out of tune because the mix was so poor. Sad to see such a great band struggling with a crap mix like that. Half the time, if you didn't know the songs, you wouldn't have known what the bloody hell was going on. [/quote]couldn't agree more about the bass drum, it's almost like sometimes they're putting reverb or echo on it [quote name='radiophonic' timestamp='1502204428' post='3349980'] At least a Bass Drum is [i]meant[/i] to be loud. We don't have one, but the average sound guy responds by making the cajon as loud as a kick drum would have been, then cranking everything else to match it. [/quote]can't agree with you there, a bass drum isn't supposed to be louder than the rest of the drum kit, it's the fashion at the moment to have it loud, which annoys the hell out of me

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1502194583' post='3349890'] Rather than moan about the crap sound on here where in general we are all in agreement, why not post something on the band's Facebook page. Be vaguely positive by saying how much you enjoyed the performance, and it was only the terrible sound that let it down. Maybe find out who the PA hire company is as well and post something similar on their social media. If enough of us start doing it then maybe we'll start to get a more balanced sound at gigs. As for Rebellion... how many years have they been holding it now? Surely the PA hire company will have sorted out by now how to deal with a room they keep coming back to year after year? Or are the organisers using different companies every year? [/quote]surely all bands have at least one person in the crowd to tell them what sort of sound they've had, but if they've not got their own sound guy you're stuffed, the bigger bands did get a better sound (either because they had their own sound man or by design, except on the first night)), but when I did hear the bass, when they were playing on there own, they all seemed to have the scooped sound, with stupidly low end on it