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[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499461305' post='3331772'] My tongue was partly in my cheek when I posted. However, I stand by my point - that the OP simply must go and try what is available (and within his budget) to get areal idea of what will suit him. [/quote]many a true word said in jest

had a similar thing at a multi band bill at Rock City (the basement alas) "Don't bring your own amp they'll be one there" turns out to a totally underpowered something or other, distorted like f***, somebody recorded the gig and the bass sound was wonderful front of house, so unless you can't actually hear yourself I don't worry about it

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1499413203' post='3331362'] Most things would be an improvement on your practice amp. You really need to go to a few shops and try some stuff out. Don't listen to us. We all suffer from confirmation bias and will recommend what we have. [/quote]this is so true

[quote name='ambient' timestamp='1499383888' post='3331278'] If someone pays via Paypal, then the item has to be sent to the address held by Paypal, using a tracked and signed for service, which is why you can enter a tracking number on Paypal when you despatch it. If someone collects, then there's no proof of delivery. They turn around and say it wasn't received, Paypal gives them their money back. I've had it where they say they can't collect because they're ill, they usually say they've got cancer or something horrible like that. Don't play around with them, just delete their texts and ignore them. These are criminals, not people to be messing with. [/quote] [quote name='ambient' timestamp='1499384099' post='3331279'] I always state cash on collection only, no other arrangement will be entertained, in capitals on the advert. I've actually met some very nice people who've bought stuff from me through Gumtree, you just need to be sensible. [/quote]sounds sensible to me, if selling on Gumtree it has to be cash on collection me thinks, maybe electronic transfer into my bank account, certainly not paypal, far to dodgy

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1499366924' post='3331116'] So why not get them to pay using this? Doesn't cost them any more - why would they decline? Scared of being scammed? [/quote]but it is a scam just not sure what it is, I'd sooner not get involved, they've no intention of buying the bass have they?

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1499365652' post='3331104'] If the buyer makes a "Friends and family" payment through Paypal can they still claim the money back? [/quote]apparently not

much as I'm tempted to string them along, I'll just reply cash on collection, do people actually for fall this?

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has anybody found an internet tab that shows the correct way of playing the main riff? I haven't

[quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499333444' post='3330771'] Aladdin Sane version does have the early bass cock up in it actually. [/quote]I don't think it's a cock up if he does it every time, if it's the same one we're talking about (just before Bowie starts singing) he does it on the live TOTP's version as well

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1499329677' post='3330728'] I do wish people wouldn't use the term musician as a way of criticicising anyone with less knowledge/skill than themselves, it's one of those 'irregular verbs': I'm a musician, you are a 'player' and he's a total amateur. OK hands up those people with nothing left to learn. I'm glad to see people mentioned fatigue as a factor for vocalists and amazed it took so long before someone talked about the crossover points in someone's vocal range. There's more too, a song has points where the vocal line needs to be strong for the words to convey meaning or have emotional impact. Think of Harry Nillson singing 'Can't live' in Without You if he couldn't do the big lift at 1min 20, it would be a very ordinary song wihout that (see what I did there) There are situations where transposing songs is easy and sometimes almost impossible. If you are using an open string to give yourself time to do a hand shift in the middle of a run then you aren't going to welcome a key change. Sometimes you can just play a note an octave higher sometimes that won't work. For a guitarist chord inversions sometimes work and sometimes not, playing with the capo above the 5th fret is often really awkward as you are trying to jam four fingers into a very small space. Eb is always troublesome unless you re-tune but a 'nice' key for brass instruments. The reality in the end though is that it is the singer most of the audience will notice and remember. A good singer with a band who are doing little more than keeping time and marking the chord changes is going to be blow away the tightest most technically accomplished band with a singer who is struggling, so until someone perfects the neck capo for vocalists....... [/quote]am I a player or musician? never thought of myself as a musician (can't read music and my theory is shaky) but I write songs and can play bass in a band that does a 2 hour set and play accoustic guitar and sing at open mics, but don't earn a living from playing, do I care? not a jot. Yes it's the singer's most important, the melody line and the lyrics are what people mostly, latch onto, that's why singers get most of the attention

[quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499329409' post='3330727'] Good lad! I cannot believe people can't hear that different interval, the G Natural (as was mentioned prior) sounds much better, more raw, more feisty. It has to be right. I am not bothered really who's played G# etc even Gail D, I just wanted it to sound like thew original. I also told the band leader tonight I want to play the "early B mistake too!" The word Tribute has to make sense to me, failing that, you are a single act cover band. [/quote]is that in the single version? apparently according to our guitarist who used to play in a Bowie tribute the single was just a demo they cut while touring America and the record company released it without telling them, that's why the Boulder mistake of not going to the chorus later on was never corrected, the Aladdin Sane version was rerecorded

[quote name='dmccombe7' timestamp='1499323956' post='3330687'] Glam Rock band i played with last year occasionally ran Jean Genie into Blockbuster by Sweet or did a medoly of them as both same riff EEE G#AG# Of course that could trigger another debate about Blockbuster by Sweet Dave [/quote]we've recently tried the same during rehearsals, I just stayed on the E for blockbuster (rightly or wrongly) then did the EGAG (g# actually, but I'll change it now) for Gene Genie, guitarist stayed the same

[quote name='Froggy' timestamp='1499287017' post='3330589'] I think maybe I need to learn a bit about eq after reading this thread! If this works it shows my current set up, however if someone has the time and inclination to explain to me how to get the most out of my eq, I would be eternally grateful. [/quote] [quote name='gjones' timestamp='1499287802' post='3330596'] Billy Sheehan might help you. He has the same amp. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J1rxp_x5Rs[/media] [/quote]lol

[quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1499287391' post='3330592'] This thread has prompted to go and have another listen as I have to admit it's not a song we've ever had a concern about. We all went away and learnt it, came to rehearsal one day and played it without an issue. I have always played G#. In my defence, we rarely use the original album tracks as templates for what we learn, so although the original, probably is G, I'm not entirely convinced that's what Gail Ann Dorsey does here.... [media]http://youtu.be/401_CdfQP30[/media] So, I went to the oracle (one of our guitarists) and he came back with this.... "Good question! Musically, it's in the key of E Major so it should be G# as that's the third note of the scale. However, what is actually played is G. I believe this stems from the blues where, for some reason, minor thirds (the G in this case) is often played over major chords, which clash. I think people have just got used to it over the past century! The Jean Genie definitely uses a G, which is more obvious in the guitar riff because of the way it is played". That said, from Day 1 I've always played G# and he has never noticed. Take it from me, if it sounded wrong when we did it, he would definitely have said by now. In fact he just messaged me to say it has never sounded wrong as far as he is concerned. So, I shall revise my opinion and say G, but with the caveat that it probably should be G# which also works. [/quote]yep I've played it both ways and they both sound right, what's a semi tone between friends still sounds like he's playing EEE G A to me though, no return to G, but it does sound better that way, it always amazes me how you can play something wrong for years and it sounds alright, especially when someone else is playing it lol

[quote name='Northy' timestamp='1499278948' post='3330520'] Well watch Trev do it and at 1:18 I see no drop down to the G# to play second fret on the D, The E, then move to the same fret on the G AFTER playing the open G?? No? And if all he played G# "That is all" is would sound pants!! lol ;-) [url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQo6zpVzt8"]https://www.youtube....h?v=CGQo6zpVzt8[/url] [/quote]I think they're miming on that, but this sort of confirms (around 2.30) it but a lot of the time it sounds like he's just play E E E A [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEmGQYCuc6M[/media] edit dlloyd beat me to it

[quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1499277862' post='3330509'] I got it again just now. I've been on the laptop for 40 minutes or so, 1 minute after I opened basschat up the b*****d pops again. Very annoying because it's not easy to get rid of. I use task manager. Frank. [/quote]I've not had it for about 4 days now, a quick way I've found to get rid of it is to hold down the enter key whilst clicking repeatably on the tab shutdown X edit, doesn't work without a mouse

yep E G# A G#, but what he's doing on the chorus is another story, the intro is tricky as well and wait till you get to the triplet bit.

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1499259297' post='3330334'] Because there's always an exception: I believe John Fogerty's voice might have got slightly higher with age. When I saw him a few years ago, he appeared to be playing Proud Mary in E - either that, or he makes his entire band tune down a whole tone... [/quote]I realise there are exceptions, Daltry and Jagger etc, but Macca isn't one of them, it's painful to hear him trying to hit the high notes these days

[quote name='ricksterphil' timestamp='1499242066' post='3330150'] . Remember Macca at the 2012 closing ceremony...embarrassing. Legend has it that he refuses to change the key of his songs to suit his current vocal range, which has dropped as he has got older. [/quote]every time I have the misfortune to here Macca sing live these days I do wonder why he doesn't drop down a tone he's obviously struggling to hit the notes and there's no shame in it, lots of singers voices go deeper with age, either he just doesn't listen to people or surrounds himself with yes men

quite like his singing style to be honest, but he does seem to have anger/attitude issues, but getting back to the keyboard warrior point, it does seem to be a problem on here and on other social sites where people say things they never would to people face to face, regardless of whether they think they'd get a whack or not, I see things on facebook from people I know in 'real' life, and I do wonder if their accounts been hacked, it's like a completely different person

if you don't really like the songs you'll get bored quickly but might find it difficult to quit, letting band mates down and all that

My bands latest album is on CD and vinyl, sound wise can't really tell any difference, but I much prefer listening to it on vinyl, nostalgia has a part to play, when I first got it I spent 5 minutes just watching it go round on the turntable, but the better artwork and the fact it's a lot more effort to skip tracks meaning you actually listen to the whole album (or at least one side) is the reason I prefer vinyl. Lets face it artwork is so crappy on CD's you may as well just download it.

[quote name='Ghost_Bass' timestamp='1499175925' post='3329698'] I never boost bass on my EQ and i don't cut mids. First EQ change i do in the mixer is to turn on the HPF on the 70~80Hz region. Who said that bass was there to be felt, not heard?!! [/quote]yep you need very little below 100Hz

[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1499176799' post='3329714'] Some very odd replies here. The main reason is simply that people's vocal ranges vary hugely. Think Paul Robeson and Robert Plant. I'm a natural baritone. I have a rather unexciting mid-ranged voice. Loads of rock songs are pitched far higher than my voice will go, because they're designed to be sung by tenors like Robert Plant and Bruce Dickinson. Plenty of songs are pitched way lower than my voice will go, because they're designed to be sung by Barry White. I suppose I could sing (a version of) Stairway To Heaven if I really felt like it, but never in the original key. That's not because I'm lazy (I'm not) or have an untrained voice (10 years' choral work in a bunch of choirs, thank you very much). It's more a matter of physiology and, y'know, yer actual physics and that. [/quote]this ^, most people can only manage 2 octaves, just moving a song a tone to suit a singer's voice won't make a big difference, nobody will know, but bands that try say a Led Zep song transposed to a baritones range just ruin it and shouldn't try,(can sound good with a female vocalist though) we did move Merry Christmas Everybody down half an octave and got away with it, and it was easier for the crowd to sing along as well, most men are baritones apparently, but yeah you need to pick songs that your singer can sing in more or less the original key if you want to get it anywhere the original version