silverfoxnik

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Thanks for the YouTube link Ian; will watch that with interest tonight... Guys; thanks for the other suggestions.. all really helpful! I like the modified Volume pedal idea.. I haven't had time this week to do any more work on this but I'm thinking that provided I have my FX rig using different speakers to my SWR Triad - so, say a cab with 8" drivers for example - then I'll get this idea to work really well.. Nik

Hi Si, That's cool! Look forward to seeing you all next week Nik

Just a week and a half to go now; any one else interested in coming along to this??

I recently bought a Boss ME50-B from Alex and everything went very smoothly! Good to deal with and very helpful.. Thanks Alex!

So; what's the deal with phase cancellation? I tried out some different combinations at the weekend using the Boss Tuner as a line splitter, which worked well, and also, used the FX out on my H&K which also worked well.. That way, i could use the FX blend control to very quickly balance up the volume between the two rigs.. But I think I favour the Boss Tuner idea most as that way, there's no discernible difference in the signal going into both rigs, whereas, coming out of the back of the H&K, I'm sure there's a very, very small delay.. For some reason though, the high pass filter line out didn't work, which was a shame! Overall, I think the biggest obstacle to getting this to work really well is the issue of phase cancellation. So what's the deal with it; is it about using different cabs, different sized drivers or is it about splitting the frequencies and how far the two rigs are apart in the room? .

Great photos Ian!! dmccombe7; I still have one of those Peavey heads and love it!

Pete, The aim is to use some FX all the time and have the sensitivity set so that, depending on how much I dig in whilst playing, more or less FX can be heard.. My aim is for the FX to be like a permanent 'colour' or 'flavour' to the overall bass sound, but I can lose it when I want it.. Hope that explains it? Nik

I've no doubt it would Pete, so that could be a way to go.. The PA option would be less hassle and i have discussed that already with the other guys in the band.. But I'm about to start rehearsals with another band in the New Year and they only have a vocal PA, hence why I'm looking at being completely self-contained on this..

Pete - that's a good question!!! And I'm not sure of the answer yet, to be honest... Though I hope to find out as I try more things out.. Such as, getting the speaker placement and the frequency split right etc, as Oli mentions above..

[quote name='mr_russ' timestamp='1320933424' post='1433378'] Yeah he's a beast ;D We're playing at the Albert in Brighton on the 22nd if you're about? [url="http://www.thedopplershift.co.uk/gigs/"]http://www.thedopplershift.co.uk/gigs/[/url] [/quote] Cool; will try to make that and as it's not a weekend, that should be easier...

Thanks Ian Brilliant..I love the sheer outrageousness of that rig !!! Did you have an Edie Stobbart account for shifting it around.... Hmm?? I have considered whether a 212 guitar combo might do the trick actually but was worried about whether one would have enough power..but if the frequencies are split as Oli and you say, then maybe that could work? Roll on the weekend when I can try some of this stuff out at volume

Thanks again folks.. My Hughes & Kettner Bassbase 600 has a blend control on the FX loop and I tried that but don't think it works as well as two seperate rigs.. More interestingly, the H&K also has a high pass control on the back which is variable, so i'll try that out at the weekend..

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[quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1320850273' post='1432238'] Just buy a Rickenbacker, Nik. Two outputs = two rigs. Alternatively, have your bass (one of the Roscoe Becks, I assume) re-wired to give you two outputs. [/quote] Funny enough Jack, my first real bass was a Rickenbacker with stereo 'rick-o-sound'... Yes, my main bass is still the Roscoe Beck V I got from you and it's doing me proud; absolutely lovely bass.. Thanks for the suggestions folks; i particularly like the idea of using the Boss Tuner to provide two outputs - very ingeneous indeed! The Little Dual pedal looks great but it's not cheap, so I may look for an alternative first..like the Boss Tuner. The cancellation issue does concern me Oli, so i'm wondering about getting that side of things right the most.. Nik

Hi Folks, Has anyone got any experience of how best to use 2 rigs at the same time? I want to use my H&K head & SWR cab for my pure bass sound and another, slightly smaller rig just to handle FX sounds. What could the potential problems be other than money (obviously) and having to carry around so much gear? I'm thinking in terms of how to drive two rigs - would I need something like a Boss LS2 - and also, problems with having similar or different speakers in the 2 rigs, speaker placement etc, etc.. In my head, it all sounds great but I'm sure it's not that easy... Is it?? Thanks Nik

This is working really well now and I'm very happy with it so far! I have another question for anyone out there who uses a lot of effects.. Is it better to have a two rig set-up? That is; [list] [*]one rig that handes just your pure bass sound, [*]and another rig that handles just the sound of your FX [/list] I've tried it out at home and at rehearsal and though it was cumbersome having to lug two lots of gear around and set it all up, the sound was so much better with the 2 seperates rigs.. When i tried it with my bass sound and the fx sound both going through just my H&K head and the SWR Triad, it just wasn't as good.. So, has anyone else out there done the same as this, or am i the only one stupid enough to even consider it? Nik

[quote name='silverfoxnik' timestamp='1320403024' post='1426299'] Cool! Any more for any more?? [/quote] BUMP

Cool! Any more for any more??

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Thanks Si, that's a great help.. It was hearing your ME-50 at the Bash in September that made me consider getting one, and because we're about to lose our keyboard player, it became even more of interest to me.. Not had much chance to play with it yet but i really like what I've heard so far! Nik

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