Beer of the Bass

If these were the size of a standard Fender Twin Reverb, that would be very small for a bass 2x12“, and if it's open backed like the usual Twin, then I wouldn't. It might be a nice guitar cab.

Ashdown seem to really prioritise effects loops. I've never had reason to use an effects loop, but on every Ashdown I've plugged into, it's right there on the front panel. I suppose someone must be using them, they've taken this approach consistently since the 90s when I had an early MAG tiltback combo.

With the chat about differences between onstage and FoH sound, I do think it's a useful skill to be able to make things work in a modest sized room with just backline and vocal/minimal drum PA. While there aren't many times that would be the first choice approach, I do feel it's a valuable exercise in dynamics, listening and communication that I've learned some things from doing.

I've tried a couple of different guitar amps through my bass cabs which use the Eminence Beta 12. It would be workable for some styles, but I find them a little "polite" sounding, definitely lacking something at the top end that I hear with almost any guitar driver.

Yeah, Gong would be a good example. Though the guys who form the current incarnation did make Daevid Allen's final Gong album with him, and had his blessing to continue as Gong so there's some sense of continuity there.

Yes, I noticed that with the A string. I have the saddle raised just a touch to even out the feel.

I've had mine on for about 2 1/2 years now, so I'm used to them. But they did feel like a big step down in tension from 45 gauge Fender or Sadowsky flats I'd used before that. The high end brightness mellowed off after a few weeks, but they've stayed clear and they can growl in a midrangey way. I like them; although they took a little adjustment in setup and technique, they feel very musical and expressive as well as never feeling like hard work.

When I was at uni I used to rehearse with a jazzy drummer with a little Trace Elliot Boxer 15 1x8" combo. It wasn't the deepest bass but it wasn't breaking up either. So if the situation and other musicians are sympathetic to it, you might get something of use at least.

Oh wow, a US seller has the Club Ignition in green. If anyone over here had that colour, that would absolutely be the one!

I think I'm going to sit on the idea for a week or so, and if it still feels like a good idea then I'll go ahead and order something. At the moment I'm havering between the Ignition Club, which I'd order from somewhere in the UK, or the Ignition Violin Cavern model, which Thomann have at a very good price even after VAT/fees. I have a slight preference for the Club body shape, but listening to people play them on YouTube, it seems like the Cavern pickup spacing might have some more useful sounds with that middle pickup, and it looks like a good location for a thumb rest too.

I'm sure this will have been covered in one of the threads somewhere, but does anyone know how this is working with Bax Shop? I thought they also shipped from the continent, but it's showing VAT inclusive prices in the shop and at checkout.

Hmm, I did wonder about the ergonomics when sitting. I think I have a slight preference for the Club bass visually too, though it looks like finding a decent gig bag or case might be trickier. I had noticed the Status strings are well priced in the short and medium scales, I'd be curious about the tapewounds too as I quite enjoyed some D'addario tapes a few years ago. Thanks for that. I think most of the brands other than the Hofner, I would probably consider if a used one came up at a particularly good price, but otherwise the Ignitions look most likely.

Having a little money sitting in my PayPal account from selling an amp, I've inevitably started thinking about something fun and musical to do with it. One thought that's quite appealing would be to go for a little hollow, short scale thumpy bass. It would be a fun sofa bass while gigs and rehearsals are off, and there are a few things where it would be an interesting change from my homebuilt 5 string. The fact they're tiny and don't weigh much seems appealing too. I wouldn't want to spend more than the Hofner Ignitions, though I'd also thought about the cheaper Harley Benton. I'm not a dedicated Beatles fan (I like 'em, but they're not a central part of my musical life), so either a Violin or Club bass could appeal. So the options I'm aware of so far are; Hofner Ignition Violin bass (either the Cavern version or the standard one), the Hofner Ignition Club and the HB Beatbass. Any thoughts on choice between those, or other similar basses out there?

This looks nice, I like that they've done the checker binding and crushed pearl inlays. Dare I say it, but it's almost as if they're responding to the existence of cottage industry luthiers making re-imagined vintage Ric style instruments, by dipping into that market themselves rather than doing ye olde lawyer's letter!

It still does (in very general terms), but it's fair to say a lot of good current 1x12" cabs can easily do the sort of job you used to need a 15“ for.

Mine has been relatively modest, given that it starts around 1993. Those in bold are still with me. Ibanez Rickenbacker copy -My first bass, it had been badly repaired and resprayed, and I only got a couple of years out of it before it folded in half. Hohner fretless Jazz copy -Played through most of my teens, the pickups were microphonic and I never got the neck relief right, so it wasn't great. Aria TSB550 fretless -A considerable upgrade from the Hohner. I saw my old bass for sale recently, now refretted, and I was tempted Self built 4 string (using hardware from the Ibanez) -Built in my parents' shed when I was 18, tweaked and refined a few times since then. Still going but weighs a ton DeArmond Ashbory -Fun but just too tiny Fender Highway One Jazz -Sold when moving house, wish I hadn't Cheap P copy modified to 8 string -Got some good use for a couple of years, but the neck couldn't take the tension long-term Self built 5 string -My current go-to electric bass Harley Benton acoustic bass. -Felt a bit pointless with a double bass around And double basses/uprights; Kay double bass (long-term loan) -Nice bass, but I wasn't keen on the gut strings it wore. Bassix electric upright -Gigged this a lot, though it never played all that well Blonde Chinese plywood double bass -Functional, though I didn't love it Old German double bass 1 -Lovely sounding bass, needed a bit more work than I wanted to put in Old German double bass 2 -Slightly bigger than the previous one, in better structural health though scruffy, will probably be with me for life.

Presuming I had space for them, I'd rather have two 1x15 cabs than a single 4x10. Getting that top cab up and closer to your ear level makes a big difference to your audibility and presence on stage, compared to one cab firing past your knees.

The Italian companies did use a lot of pearloid, it's true. I always thought it was due to their proximity to the accordion trade!

Aww, why do only the 4—strings get the fun colours?

It certainly makes me think of that 90s revival of 60s aesthetics, like Pop flares, lava lamps in Woolworths etc...

I can certainly see a couple of scenarios someone could use it in, though it just seems like an odd combination of functions to put together in one unit. And I hope the outputs are fully isolated from the speaker inputs, or the issues discussed further up the thread could kick in.

I wouldn't recommend gut strings as the first call for someone new to the instrument; while some players swear by them, they're a bit of a niche interest today and quite finicky and high maintenance compared to steel or synthetic strings. They're something to explore later if you're drawn towards that sound, IMO. And the Alice strings are unlikely to be an upgrade from the stock strings on a cheap bass. Quality steel strings have a braided steel core (sometimes called rope or spiral core), while the cheap ones have a solid steel core which makes them stiff feeling and often with poor intonation and pitch stability. So I'd second the suggestion of finding a lightly used set of quality strings. Spirocores in particular can go for years and withstand being swapped between basses better than many.

I've been struggling to figure out what the point of this box is. I can't think of many amps modern enough to use Speakons that don't also have a DI output already. And when would it be useful to take a headphone output from the speaker signal without muting the speaker?

They were apparently a popular thing in the UK in the 50s and 60s. It was long gone by the time the bass got to me, but the three round scars on the top are still clearly visible. Not my pic, but you get the idea...

I think the GHS Brite Flats are the same basic string type as Status call half rounds.