prowla

I only went back through this month's bass sales and found a number of items bearing false logos and Fender in their titles.

But it is still illegal.

You are picking which laws (and rules) you wish to apply. Links to counterfeit/trademark law have already been provided, along with links to site rules covering copyright/trademark.

Well, one the one hand, who said I did? And on the other hand, if the mods stance is that they will react to reported infringements, then isn't that a requirement?

It is still a fake even if you say so. "Come and get yer genuine fake Rolex watches, Gucci handbags - roll up, roll up!".

Intentionally selling an item titled Fender which is known to have a non-genuine Fender logo.

Yep.

Intentionally selling a fake item.

Utter baloney - that is not what I said at all! The mods adopt a light-touch and don't monitor/vet everything - that is a perfectly valid way of running a web site and is in no way a criticism. Please don't try and twist my words.

Cool - the rules are there - it's been established. A number of infringements have crept through because the mods don't police/vet everything (ie. are not heavy-handed) and nobody flagged them. Actually, just pointing out the rules on post #2 would've sorted it. It's been an interesting discussion.

The issue is about deceit, you are right, and selling an instrument with a fake logo on it is deceit. You are the one who is acting like a control freak, wanting to define your own set of rules which somehow trump the site rules and the law of the land. Luckily you don't define either, and furtunately never will.

Don't start with the fish fingers again, old bean!

Hahahaha - that was a good 'un!

Well, you haven't read all of the thread then; there have been some in agreement and the rules covering it have been cited by the mods. All that's left then is a group of people arguing that it's OK to turn a blind eye to the rules (which have been quoted and linked) and the law (which has also been quoted and linked). If you've got some time over the hols, try watching 12 Angry Men - it's a great movie.

I swear I looked there! https://www.basschat.co.uk/rules/ rule 6.c

Bloody fat fingers (will correct!).

The old something is wrong but it's OK because nobody was hurt ploy... But (at least) one was bought believing it to be a real Fender and they all break the previously printed site rules. At least one's title says "Fender", which it isn't.

No - that's already been discussed; saying that there is an issue with fake logos cannot be extrapolated to saying therefore nothing can be sold. And yes, a solution has been given.

I'll give you that one. But can they then couple those two disparate parts with a load of other 3rd party components and call it a Fender? It's clearly another edge-case (just like the earlier Squier replacement neck one) and I wouldn't remove the branding.

Because they infringe copyright and trademark, as detailed in the rules which were printed earlier.

The infringe copyright and trademark laws, regardless of what's printed in the description.

Well, apart from the acknowledged Limelight one (shall we call it a "misconception", though it clearly demonstrates the power of the logo) we're over to my 40% re. the trademark/copyright. Is the "Fender Custom Jazz" effectively a clickbait deception. But regardless, they all have Fender logos.

Each of them has a Fender logo on it - which ones would you say are genuine Fenders?

I participated but not instigated.

Here are some examples of Fender logo'd instruments from this month's bass classifieds: I may have missed some for December and I didn't go back further.