Cuzzie

This will create a great debate as each of those has their merit and no matter how good they are, they may not sound right to your ears...... So for my 2 pence worth can I ask if you like the Hartke sound? If so you can get an LH500 or LH1000 cheaply second hand, i got mine in a flight case perfect for under £200. I have a Barefaced Supertwin which is a 212 and it is very loud. I got the Cab second hand and had decent change out of £1K. If it's lighterweight you need with power to drive speakers then there are other things like Tecamp Puma, Aguilar Tonehammer 500, EBS Reidmar 750 all very well priced on the second hand market. Good luck!

I would say go for it! The other thing is that in TB land people do flip stuff quite a lot, you could hold out and find a second hand good 'un. I managed to get a G&L just how i wanted for less including postage and tax than it would cost 2nd hand here in Blighty.

i spoke to them when they first came out, and it seemed they were going for lightweight instruments mid range and were really helpful. It was not what i was looking for and so left it, but guys in TB land have said good things.

G&L LB100 for a more classic sound, SB-1 for a more aggressive sound, both passive

Solid gear You won't go wrong.

It is very interesting how things blend depending on guitars, song, mix etc. I don't have a Jazz and have never played one, but sonically I definitely see the merit of them and occupying the correct sonic space. I am a big G&L nut, with 2 ASATs one solid and one semi hollow and the L1500. It's fairly simple, if my guitarist has the Les Paul out I have to thin my sound with the bridge Pup and very clean to sound right. With his Strat I can go deep and full and distorted with the ASATs with both or neck Pup. With his Musicman Albert Lee the L1500 has that perfect punch. Have you recorded live play not necessarily through a board with each bass and them, then sat back and listened, or have you bass line on loop they play and you sit out front? May help

It's true there is nothing wrong with Hartke kit. I have an LH1000 which is a great solid amp. I was running it through HyDrive 410s and did like the sound very much, however we have just subtly altered our sound and based on advice from Alex and a friend I have gone for a super twin, and I have to say I am really happy and it works for me very well. This is not to say one is better than the other, it's just to reinforce the fact that you should trust your ears and then weigh up cash etc. For your purchase

Just looked over all those videos again. The amp is incredible

@Lozz196 only 13 stone?!??? Is that dripping wet and wearing a bass and carrying all your gear? I though bass players as well as being the most handsome had to be the heaviest, or am I eating for Xmas early....

Second that on buying second hand gear on here, even on Talkbass I have got stuff sent over from across the pond and took a gamble. I personally have good experiences via eBay and gumtree. A guy I have bought from on eBay has become a friend and we stay in touch. I have found it interesting selling on places like these as you can meet some really interesting folk. Hartke cabs were listed above, my input on them is they are a good quality, I had a 410 HyDrive which was solid, heavy-ish and well made with a good sound. The sound you get will be crisper as they are part paper and part aluminium cones. It can be a minefield as essentially there is no right or wrong answer to this, it's what fits in with your ears and budget. It is great fun though!

Yeah I thought that, just did Quick sums and on the website ordering before import it sits at £1600. You would think in an amp that expensive they would have universal power supply.... Shame I don't have 3 kidneys so I could sell one or win more than £3 on the thunderball lotto...

Tell me about it! You can get it close to £1K statside just about incliuding import second hand, then there is whether or not you need step down transformer... i have got close but different using just 1 channel. I have a Darkglass B7K with most of the lows taken out, and then i put them back in with the Mantic Beef Bag and Hartke VXL DI box. Just also acquired the Two Notes Le Bass for a mini pick up and go board, but i may be anle to link it all together. I have a Darkglass VMT to throw into the mix also. My amp currently is a Hartke LH1000 which is powerful and OK, lots of bang for the buck and nicely amplifies the sound created by the pedals. I just changed to a Barefaced Super Twin which suits me better than the HyDrives i had. Not sure i actually NEED to change, but Need, Want, Must and Have are interchangeable 4 letter words......! I posted about the Wounded Paw 701 to see if that was an affordable option, that or maybe a Reidmar i've been liking the look of.

This is doing my bank balance no good.....knew I should not have started it up again. An amp is a hard one to hide from the mrs....

Legend Looks like I may have to join the revolution and rejoin Facebook, seems nothing is possible without it!

Cheers bro, it looks tasty and he gets some serious sounds out of it as well. Second hand market on this is pretty slow/fairly non existent unless it's an import, and that's a lot of wedge! I know only I can answer as its personal preference, but still wonder whether this would cure all my 'dirt' needs and could offload a bunch of pedals to finance it, or whether it's just too much amp unless you are realistically playing big areas and often. I did email Tech 21 and suggest they do a lower power half price version like a 5-700w and they said good idea, but not yet... Be great if someone out there actually has one to get some more personal info, or I may have to try to contact Jon on you tube. Appreciate you taking the time to find the links

I know, it looks pretty cool, but not many audio's out there. I can see it will do dirt really well, but I am interested in what clean sounds like!

Old thread revived. Can anyone talk about their experience with this in anger? Really would like to hear from users about its tone, especially the low end channel clean

Anyone come across these in the wild yet...?

Good review, I would be interested also to see how the separate 12s compare to a supertwin? If yr in the Bristol area you can have a play in my Gen3 to compare

Nice axes bro

I fully agree with you. I got one recently and it is an absolute joy. I have a silver to match you Steel...

I'm not that great but also not that fussy about my basses set up. I have gotten them all second hand and not changed the set up at all on them. Yes they are all different, and 3 different necks as well, but it seems to work for me. I am not a technical fast player and just like to try to keep the baseline and the song together. All G&Ls 1 ASAT solid body thick #7 old fashioned P bass type neck 1ASAT semi hollow #8 thin neck 1L1500 #12 neck Only similarity is a rosewood fret board and GHS Boomer strings. Each I love and I pick up the bass I think suits the song. Keeps you fresh!

Look forward to hearing about it, i got my super twin recently and have only been at house volume and house volume plus, cant wait to let it loose

MXR for me, but a mate of mine who is a very good basssist is a Cali man