Sorry to take things off topic for a second...
[quote name='yorks5stringer' post='311373' date='Oct 21 2008, 03:38 PM']"I don't know where ALC is in Bradford"
It's in Wapping, if you are stood outside Canal Road Tescos it is the massive modern building right up on the hill looking towards the Leeds Road area: in fact I've just looked out my office window in the centre of Bradford and can see it from here too![/quote]It's the big, grey, double warehouse saying 'Abundant Life Church' in neon purple. A past parishoner told me it was built as a warehouse so if the church 'folded', the warehouse would offer more 'development opportunities' (ie sell easier) than a 'traditional' church building. It's a thriving business at the moment, and hence it's recent expansion into a mini citadel.
[quote name='BigBeefChief' post='311377' date='Oct 21 2008, 03:41 PM']Has it got one of those "progressive" vicars who wears a leather jacket and smokes weed and stuff?
I love those!
They usually get caught shagging the 17 year old daughter of one of the parishioners.[/quote]The 'vicar' is (surprise surprise) self appointed, and has a [i]penchant [/i]for sports cars which are parked in the grounds of his palatial dwelling.
He got in trouble a few years ago for filming a promo video in which he wore sunglasses, a leather coat, and was brandishing a (replica?) MP5 machine gun.
Also, other churches in the area question how much 'Christian' work the ALC do, you'd be hard pressed to find any of them doing a soup run, or a jumble sale for Christian Aid week.
We've all seen Genesis' [i]Jesus He Knows Me [/i]video, and IMO the ALC parishoners are getting fleeced in the most appalling way. Even if charity does start at home.
Slightly more on-topic:
I saw some of the MOBO awards the other week and they have a Christian/Worship category. A lot of the clips I saw sounded & looked like straight-ahead chart-fodder. I'd never heard anything like it!