Musicman20

[quote name='vegas_hooker' post='622169' date='Oct 10 2009, 12:20 AM']Still together; [url="http://planetsofold.com/"]http://planetsofold.com/[/url] Caleb doesnt drive his amps too hard that I could always tell. He uses a fulltone fulldrive with an ODB3 for the growly tone.[/quote] Cheers dude....just this second found that! Snap! I like it, and im glad they are still around. You can tell they are all mad guitar/bass fanatics.

[quote name='nash' post='622167' date='Oct 10 2009, 12:19 AM']yea caught them in mon. when i saw them the back line was MR had 2 marshall jtm 30 watt heads into 4 4x12 IH had a small fender combo OW had svt 2 with one spare and an 8x10 and two lots of blackstar artisan 30 head with a 4x12 VA just had the 1 leslie stack they sounded sweet. i think all i heard of the bass was a di of the TB. boomy if i was playing guitar i'd say no to 200watts.[/quote] +1....I had a 60W tune Fender amp and basically unless you were playing super super loud, it was unnecessary. I much prefer lower wattage guitar amps so you get them to their sweet spot easier.

Keep the EQ flat first, and experiment with the two end knobs....VLE and VPF. I always seem to end up leaving the EQ. What bass are you using?

Sunn Now thats something i'd like to own. One of my favourite bands, Cave-In, use a P Bass/Grabber (I think, im not too hot on Gibson basses) with a Sunn: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c73UEu-NF_Q&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c73UEu-NF_Q...feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPYU36bB28"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPYU36bB28[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280KmSDIx7I&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280KmSDIx7I...feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbyvAx1mzY&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rbyvAx1mzY...feature=related[/url] Not sure if they still do, (not sure if they are still together!) Some Marshall Bass amps on those live UK vids. Basically, I want to play in a dirty heavy rock band with hardcore influences...lots of bass runs and cranked tubes. Guitaist would not be allowed any of this ESP stuff...

A massive part of the GJ sound is a pure passive P bass, with stainless strings and the mids sucked. I could ALMOST get it with my MIJ and my old Trace head...but it lacked the dirt. Now I have a tube amp I need to re-establish that awesome Glassjaw tone.

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='621818' date='Oct 9 2009, 05:11 PM']Dont forget our Laklands have stubby head stocks. I find my DJ5 (and 55-01 before) will fit all the cases ive ever had. Thats not to say they will fit everything but they are slightly shorter than some 35" basses.[/quote] [quote name='GreeneKing' post='622052' date='Oct 9 2009, 09:54 PM']The Mono's fit my Spector 35" scale 5ers with room to spare.[/quote] Thanks guys!

Im hoping to get a Mono case soon, and more Berg in the future.

I know it applies more to their guitar cabinets, but the Orange cabinets are made from 13 ply high density 18mm birch plywood. I know that guitar cab wise, it has a shockingly goods effect, along with the V30s, in giving the guitar so much low end and 'heavyness' /darker tone. Is this an example of fast labour? Even if it is, they are so much better tone wise than every other guitar cabinet ive heard, And Ive heard a LOT. Ive not A/B'd my Orange bass cabs as yet....but they do seem to be really thick and chunky is terms of tone, and they are made from the same wood. Ok, it weighs a fair bit, but sometimes you just have to build it in that way to get that huge sound. Im not talking about anything scientific, all Im talking about is the end result; tone. Tone is more important than any other factor.

Ive tried a few tube guitar amps for bass and it was lacking. It just doesnt sound that sweet.

Will a Mono fit a Lakland Joe Osborn 5 (35 scale) ? If so, then it will fit all of my basses.

[quote name='Clarky' post='621792' date='Oct 9 2009, 04:52 PM']Just spotted this, similar to bass in OP but in shiny new look and half the price! [url="http://www.classicandcoolguitars.co.uk/basses/jazz1962reissue.htm"]http://www.classicandcoolguitars.co.uk/bas...1962reissue.htm[/url][/quote] WOW!!!!!

I started back vox years back and now I have no problem. In the future I hope to be able to split the songs between a few main vocalists, one being me. I know I can hold a note or make a lot of noise, so Im happy!

Oh heck, I didnt want to ruin the thread with a 'VS' topic. The customer service Ive got from Orange has been absolutely amazing. Yes, they do produce them in much larger numbers, and yes I agree the Matamp after service sounds great. But, there has to be a reason why I was drawn to the Orange, and that was tone. I never thought I'd go down the Orange route until I inspected the amp, then heard it a a low then high volume. I was sold. Plus, it is one of the most striking amps I have seen. IMO, the Orange + Matamp amps are some of the best tube amps built nowadays. I rate them both much higher than Ampeg; at least they are based in the UK thus much easier to get sorted out. As soon as I bought mine, I realised 2-3 of my favourite bands, including Converge, ETID and Alk Trio all use the AD200b Mk3, and they have awesome tone when Ive seen them live.

[quote name='umph' post='621465' date='Oct 9 2009, 11:37 AM']you couldn't be further from the truth! they both started as the same company, but thats about the only resemblance they share nowadays! The circuitry and build quality are miles apart. in regards to dirty though, have you ever cranked a hiwatt chris? if i were you i'd keep an eye out for a roost / vintage hiwatt / soundcity 120 or even nab that simm watts head that keeps appearing on ebay and let me do it up for you ;>[/quote] I know they are different inside, and the whole PTP argument, but the sound? On that night, very similar.

[quote name='metaltime' post='621437' date='Oct 9 2009, 11:11 AM']Ive never liked P basses but this thread s giving my gas. I don't no whats the matter with me [/quote] No matter what basses a player owns, EVERYONE needs a proper Precision. Something about the sound/look draws me in everytime.

[quote name='Musicman20' post='600889' date='Sep 16 2009, 11:19 PM']Cheers Poncho, Ive emailed you [/quote] BUMP

[quote name='OldGit' post='621425' date='Oct 9 2009, 11:00 AM']Thansk matey and sorry for hijacking your thread ... [/quote] Hey thats absolutely fine, you helped me out anyway with a value and some links to the thread. I have PM'd one of the chaps who was second in line so he might be in touch with you about yours Good luck!

[quote name='OldGit' post='621381' date='Oct 9 2009, 10:24 AM']If there's anyone still in this thread Some people expressed an interest in the white 62 RI. An incoming sunburst version of the same thing (which is what I really wanted all along ) means that both japanese Precisions are now up for grabs: - Fender Japan 62 Re-issue Vintage White/Tort/Rosewood, non-export CIJ £350 - Fender Japan 1980's '57 Re-Issue CAR/White/Maple non-export MIJ £350 Small pic on the first post [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?s=&showtopic=56416&view=findpost&p=559739"]Here[/url] I'll do a for sale thread as soon as I've go the sunburst and made sure it's the right bass for me but this is a heads up and invitation to PM for pictures. Send me an email address and I'll link you to the webshots galleries for each. Thanks OG[/quote] I had a fair fews PMs for my 62 reissue, so you will no doubt get plenty after it! Good price as well As much as I wanted to keep it, I cannot just keep things forever. Good luck

I am of the view that the Matamp and Orange heads are very very similar. I was playing a gig a few weeks back, and the headlining band, The Plight, (incredible modern rock n roll band with hardcore influences) had a GT200. The band before had the Orange AD200b. As Im Fender biased, the Orange sounded better, as the GT200 had a Thunderbird plugged into it. But they BOTH sounded fantastic, boutique, and more importantly, very dirty. But not in a such a way that there was no clarity. In a few years, im going to get a custom Matamp as well, so that way ill have both. Thats if London doesnt rinse me of all of my earnings!

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='621311' date='Oct 9 2009, 09:13 AM']I take that as a compliment to Aguilar [/quote] Me too. In fact, the inside build on these cabs is great. Im no cab builder, but it looks extremely well made.

Finbar, I agree with the tone with Glassjaw. I love their bass sound. If you want my opinion, after wondering around the world of dirty tube amps, the Orange AD200b Mk3 is perfect for when you need a good dirty sound at levels where you still can hear the drums and guitar! Plus, if you want to push it louder, it will give you all the volume you want. I never realised how loud a tube amp could be until I played around with it. At 1/3 master, 1/2 gain, its seriously loud with lots of volume left. The sheer low end 'heft' is insane. I suggest the Orange or a dirty Matamp. The problems with the Ampeg SVT CL is its weight, and the fact it has to be cranked a lot higher to give you real grit. I a/b'ed the Orange with the Ampeg CL and VR, and the Orange won hands down. Not only that, but the second hand market for Orange and Matamp is better, should you ever sell. Ampeg isnt as 'boutique' unless you get a vintage one. No doubt a Matamp voiced to be dirty would be the same.