Musicman20

[quote name='tayste_2000' post='820480' date='Apr 27 2010, 11:55 AM']Or [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=85290&st=0"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=85290&st=0[/url] [/quote] +1...solid rock n roll

[quote name='mrhectic' post='819417' date='Apr 26 2010, 02:24 PM']ah cool! cheers for the advice andy! I think a mesa is looking more likely. I read somewhere that the orange obc has a horn which you can't adjust.[/quote] It was an odd decision by Orange to di this, but the horn is nice and subtle on the cab, and doesn't sound too 'bright' like I found even the Bergs can. You need to give them all a good try. You'll find the Orange prices are much more reasonable due to various factors, one being it's a UK company so no messing about paying a ridiculous amount over what they do in the USA. What tone/size/weight are you after? If you are looking for a quality rock n roll 4x10, Mess and Orange are good places to look.

+1, DI box. Either just a full on DI or a DI combination pedal like Sansamp.

I had two 3 band EQ Rays which I only sold to get a Classic and SR5 on order. I dont think I ever noted a weak G string....weirdly. The main reason I went for Rays is that I think their electronics and tone are up there with some of the best anyway, so I doubt Id ever switch anything on it. I know EB are really picky with their guarantees if you change small bits on the bass. Maybe Ive been lucky?! I agree the E sounds massive on Rays....and sometimes it feels the bottom two strings dont 'push' as much as the E and A, but thats the same for every Jazz bass Ive tried. Its part of their tone and original design I guess....Im guessing its a technical issue to do with frequencies.

Cool! Its a damn nice combo esp for the price. Id like to see pics when you get it!

[quote name='throwoff' post='818877' date='Apr 26 2010, 08:48 AM']Wierdly enough I ALWAYS wanted and Orange but I seem to have forgotten they exist up until this very moment! I'm so tempted by so many things![/quote] Righty....I will fully recommend the Orange stack. Yes, Im biased, but if you are going for a full rock n roll rig, do it in style. Orange is the way to go. Heavy as hell, tone for days. Rock n roll.

Three choices with that criteria: LM3 plus VT F1 plus VT RH450 plus nowt

[quote name='GRAHAM SG1' post='814585' date='Apr 22 2010, 07:57 AM']I think I am sold on the GK MB210 with the possibility of adding an extension at a later date, a 4x10 mini `tower`sounds just right, I also like the weight of these amps, find it hard to believe its in pounds and not kgs, thats half the weight of my Marshall so my back will like it . I have just one reservation though, I read that GK amps are made in China, in my experience stuff made in China is poor quality so are these amps good quality ?? Thanks[/quote] I think a fair few big manufacturers have their production elsewhere now, including Ampeg! The best bet would be to make sure it's got a warranty no matter what you get. It's a shame you can't test them out. There are a lot of reviews of the GK MB combos on talkbass.com. I'm not actually even sure where that Marshall is made if I'm honest. Good luck

[quote name='tom1946' post='814103' date='Apr 21 2010, 07:12 PM']Do you like soundslive Musicman20? Was thinking of having a run up from near Teesside to try out the Steve Harris. Is the shop worth the trip?[/quote] If theyve got it in, its worth a visit to try it out. I dont know how they operate but Id just be sure to know their internet prices and do a bit of haggling. They have a lot of nice Markbass gear in at the moment, and a fair few Fenders. Nice chaps....just make sure you have a price in mind. Guitarguitar are nearby, and they have some different gear in like Laklands etc, Aguilar, TC....but I find them very expensive. With most stores, its just a case of friendly haggling.

[quote name='GRAHAM SG1' post='814084' date='Apr 21 2010, 06:54 PM']Re the KG combo amps you guys mention; •350W @ 8 ohms/500W @ 4 ohms (with extension) They all say the above so the question is, is it worth paying the extra for what is essentially a 350 Watt amp without extension cab, would the extra £200 cost over my Marshall would be justified by better quality and better loudness ?? The KG MB210 looks like a goer as its available now, I would like the 2x12 but if its not out yet . I must say I appreciate you knowledge and experience guys, I am a bass newbie ![/quote] No probs! Thats what we are here for...plus soon you will probably build up a vast wealth of knowledge you can bore your guitarist with hahaha. Dont even try with the drummer. The GK MB212 is 4 ohms....even though it says 8 ohms on that USA site. Its the FULL 500W into that 2x12 enclosure. The GK MB210 allows an extension but it wont put out full power without it. If you go for the 210, its smaller/lighter, and you have the option of adding an MBE210 cabinet when they come out, (if they arent out already). That will give you a 4x10 tower with 500W and will be super super loud. It will be more expensive that the MB 212 combo thats due to come out, but you will have the options of just the 2x10 combo, or adding the extension cabinet. The amp inside that combo is apparently very very loud, and has a hell of a lot of low end. It also can be quite 'bright' as well, if you want it to be.....to cut through a little. Obviously EQ can be used. The GK site is not updated yet but their catalogue is here: [url="http://www.gallien.com/news_brochures.html"]http://www.gallien.com/news_brochures.html[/url] It wont sound exactly like the Marshall, but it might actually be better as GK just makes bass amps/cabs. I reckon the price difference is worth it. If you go any higher, we are talking Markbass....very very good gear but not cheap. Personally, id ask if they can order you a GK MB212, unless you want a 2x10 x 2 setup and then you can go for what they have and add to it. But...its upto you I think the MB Combos are very well priced and probably the lightest ones out there at the moment.

Problem is, some of the shops ive been in round here have a lot of stock, and some of its quite old.... I tested 4 or so basses the past week, and all of them throughout two stores had BAD dings, one of them had part of the nut missing off! (A Stingray 5). I dont really like buying shop stock unless its fairly new in. Im just a picky sod. The Squier I tested was £40 over the prices on the net and a massive ding on the underside. I tend to use one store for everything now, and they are nowhere near me hahah. They also understand im a picky sod. The only exception is strings and Orange stuff...purely as they dont deal with Orange.

[quote name='GRAHAM SG1' post='813937' date='Apr 21 2010, 04:47 PM']The problem I keep finding is that they advertise the power as say 500 Watts etc but that is only when an extension cab is used, if no cab then back to 300 Watts and the scenario I now have !! I am trying to avoid having an extension cab because I have to carry around all the PA (being the singer) and my bass gear so no room for an extension . If I was not the singer then I would have a lot more choice ! I want preferrably a head of no less than 500 Watts when used with one 2x10 cab . I can get a Marshall 1x15 extension cab for £179 which would boost up to 450 Watts, this would be the cheapest option and enable me to keep the tones I like from my amp, just a pain having an extension - doh[/quote] Ah I see....right well the problem is, as much as 2x10s can move a fair bit of air, they will struggle at a certain point, even the high end models. There are not many manufacturers who make 4 ohm 2x10 combos....but the GK one I put a link to is pretty cheap and very very well known. Not only that, their extension cabs are much lighter than the Marshall. The GK 2x12 combo, which is not listed there but is coming out, IS 4 ohms, and will kick up a lot of air....and the full power of the amp will be going into it. Plus, its very very light. I cant find a UK site, but here are the specs on a USA site: [url="http://www.gbase.com/gear/gallien-krueger-mb-212-bass-combo"]http://www.gbase.com/gear/gallien-krueger-mb-212-bass-combo[/url] (note that you cannot use an extension cabinet now....GK made them so they run 500W into the internal speakers). 37lbs (hardly anything), 2x12, 500W, 4 ohm. Job done and actually a pretty damn good amp. If I needed a new combo....unless I had cash for Markbass, this would be it. Info here: [url="http://guitargearnews.blogspot.com/2010/01/gallienkrueger-mb-series-combos.html"]http://guitargearnews.blogspot.com/2010/01...ies-combos.html[/url]

[quote name='GRAHAM SG1' post='813876' date='Apr 21 2010, 03:44 PM']I am considering getting a credit and buying another amp from the place I bought this from, I have seen an Ashdown MAG 600 H EVO2 head, what 2x10 cab do you guys recommend bearing in mind my budget is about £250, it requires a minmum of 4 ohm impedance for the cab .[/quote] Personally, I think you might be best off with a 4 ohm 2x12..might be slightly more but it will cover a LOT of ground for you. The GK 212 combos are great apparently....very light and loud. There is this as well, the 2x10 version..but again its only a 2x10 so will only do so much. [url="http://www.dv247.com/guitars/gallien-krueger-mb-210-bass-guitar-amp-combo--70248"]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/gallien-krueg...mp-combo--70248[/url] A really good 'value for money' amp would be one of these (loud and damn good...I used a friends on tour): [url="http://www.dv247.com/guitars/hartke-lh500-bass-guitar-amp-head--49122"]http://www.dv247.com/guitars/hartke-lh500-...amp-head--49122[/url] And then lookout for a good cabinet (if you want to use just ONE cab, then a 2x12 4 ohm is best IMO, unless you want the added weight/volume of a 4x10.

It is with a slight hint of regret that ive had to sell on some great basses the past few weeks. Originally, I was very happy with my setups, but I found myself wanting different things, and when one of the basschat members said 'why not thin the herd to get what you want' I decided to embark on some serious shuffling about. So far, ive sold my awesome DB212s (8 ohms) and I nearly went for two DB112s, but I got a great quote on a DB212 (4ohm) and it also meant I had spare money to spend on other bits. BUT, the most difficult decision was selling the Stingrays. I have really really looked after those basses. Before the new Fenders came out wit improvements, I was weary of buying them, but now Im a happy owner of three! They aint going nowhere now. The Ps are just perfect, and the Jazz really is that Jazz ive wanted for years, (and is far superior to one I bought from new at a similar price about 7 years ago....which went straight back!) I have been really excited about the Classic Rays for a long time, so one Ray had to go Then, I gave my 5 string yearning a good kick into gear and tested a few more basses. The Ray 5 'works' for me...perfectly. So yet another of my Rays had to go Its very strange looking at my gear to see no Ernie Balls, but thats all change soon Has anyone else had a total change recently? Now I dont own any instruments that are more than about 9 months old. Same with amps but the oldest one is roughly 18 months old, (Orange gear). Massive change, but thats how it is! Now I also think Ive found a suitable workhorse backup bass....Squier Classic Vibe 60s Jazz....so Ill probably get one soon.

Good choice. Every bass player needs a Precision

Out of those four, Id suggest a refund and give it some thought. Possibly DI the Bass for a few weeks until you know what you are happy with. There are some stunningly loud and light amps/cabs around at the moment...and some of them are very 'old school' in their tone We can all help with recommendations, but dont blame us if you end up getting addicted to buying this stuff!

[quote name='KiOgon' post='813640' date='Apr 21 2010, 12:09 PM']As above ^^ I'm still a newcomer here & agree with just about all the comments on this so far, it's just bad manners - I was dragged up proper like - politeness & manners cost nothing but speak a fortune about an individual's character IMHO. I know I'm one of the *old's kool* (best pun on words I've seen for ages) but it's not an age thing although I have to admit the general lack of manners & common decency is perhaps a sign of the times. The forum community spirit is great here, I've already benefited from the generosity of a few members & in return have happily sent small donations to help keep this place running - for every sale I've made + for every 'gift' received. Feedback matters too, especially to encourage new members + just about everybody uses ebay these days & it has sort of become a way of at least making a superficial judgment on a complete stranger! Cheers all, John (Grumpy old gits rule OK)[/quote] Feedback is excellent on this site. I really dislike Ebay...always have. I had a massive clearout about 5 years ago on ebay and sold a lot of fairly expensive clothing and shoes that were in really good condition, (£100 skateboarding shoes etc etc). I did make a nice sum of money, and I then had to resort to Ebay to sell my Peavey cabs a couple of years back (purely as I wasnt massively involved with Basschat). If you are selling small low cost items for a little extra money to have a clear out, its a good idea, but I wouldnt buy/sell basses on their again unless I really had to. I just dont like paying Paypal/Ebay fees one bit. I like it on here...nice trustworthy place and decent people all following the same goals...eg a great bass/amp/cab/effects/cables etc etc setup.

I've played a similar model to this in a rehearsal room with a LOUD punk band about a year ago. It had no lack of volume at all...reminded me of how loud the Trace combos are. Personally, I'd complain again and get them to pick up/refund...