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[quote name='acidbass' post='395590' date='Jan 30 2009, 05:50 PM'][i]Alludes[/i] to? The irony is simply delicious [/quote] I know, and I'll put my hands up to that one, best bit being is that I had alludes down in the first place but I'd spelt it wrong ergo, it looked wrong.

Fat Mike from NoFX uses various DC's. I think that's almost praise enough. I was looking at one, I'm put off by the slab body and the Dano headstock, they do look the business though. Edit: I see they're no longer on the Dano site and they've got a copper Longhorn back this year...mmm, tasty.

[quote name='Riot_Basscabs' post='395140' date='Jan 30 2009, 07:37 AM']Wow thanks thats some hardcore questions. 1) I have made a prototype( I said so in my original post) 2) Nope i dont know alot about tone construction but the box i've built sounds amazing and is based on other cabs i've seen. 3) As for speakers i said in my post im still unsure as to exactly the right one but Neo's are def an option.As i said before i have some great techy friends to help me with tech stuff. 4) If your after all the bells and whisles of todays modern amps then this is not for you.Its plug and play as i said. 5)Will the grills effect the sound? Maybe a tiny bit but lets face it...It looks cool! 6) It will be very light.Its 10mm ply and the speakers are gonna be the lightest and most powerfull i can find. 7) Ive read Alex's thread...The guys amazing! and yes i've already took a few tips. 8) Nope im not putting in two imputs for active and passive.Its plug and play.Ive tested a 4 string jazz,An active overwater and an 8 string tapper and they all sound good through the ruff prototype. 9)Come on guys lets have some fun with this.Forget all the techs for a minute and go with pure feeling! I know this will work but dont take my word for it.Just wait for the clips. 10)If it sounds sh*t noones gonna buy it! If you try it and it sounds sh*t your not gonna buy it,If i build iut and it sound sh*t im not gonna sell it!!!! Lets all relax and see what happens! Cheers again guys for all the ideas.I understand i will get some negatives but its all good.Tone over Tech! lol Cheers[/quote] 1) Really? I do believe it states your friend has made a prototype for you but I cannot tell whether that [s]occludes[/s] alludes to a cab or just a powersection, sort the grammar out chap. 2) So, you have built a prototype, and you've stated it sounds amazing...to your ears. And "sound amazing" is hardly a description of the sound, is it crisp defined lows with punchy mids and controlled highs? Or does it sound like a wooly mammoth belllowing? 3) You seem to be relying on your friends a lot for advice rather than researching and obtaining the knowledge for yourself. What exactly do you know about cab construction? 4) Even plug and play need some controls, a basic low/mid/high eq is pretty much essential. What happens if you use this cab sans controls in a boomy environment? You'd need to cut the lows a little bit, your cab does not allow that as per the design you've pitched. 5) You're rather excited about this grill of yours, and I hate to say it, but 99% of people who will see your amp on stage won't give too hoots about it, they will care how it sounds (relates to lack of a basic eq). 6) Ok, 10mm ply. Fine. What about bracing? Thinner ply means more bracing is needed inside to keep the cab rigid. 7) Yes, he's awesome isn't he 8) Is it going to have a gain control then? Some passive basses have silly hot outputs (1970's Telebass's, Yamaha Attitudes etc...), and without any sort of pad function you stand a chance of sending the input (or lack of) into clipping, not to mention you'll have to fiddle with it if you change basses during a gig. 9) You're telling us to go with it yet also asking what we'd think? It's your project, you go with it, if you need to defend your ideas and designs after asking us and then being told they're flawed and in need of more development that's up to you, but don't hold it against us when you piss a few hundred quid away. This is an engineering project, not a piece of art, there are laws of physics you have to take into account so you can find the middleground, luckily common cab design which you are following is roughly in that middleground. 10) Correct and Correct, then why the hell are you asking us what we think of your design and what variables are going to affect it if you're just going to build it and only offer it when it produces a sound that you personally are happy with? Seems arse to front to me. If you'd have come on going "Guys, I've got this idea to build a combo with a twist, going to be a 2x12, around 400w, but I'm doing away with an amp, it's just going to have a powersection and the required circuitry to make sure there's the correct level input to the poweramp, it's not going to have an EQ section at all. I'm probably going to build it out of 10mm ply to keep the weight down, I want it to be ported as well, any advice on internal construction and anything I've missed with the design?", you'd have gotten much better responses and critical feedback, instead you blundered in like a hyperactive gopher singing praises for a project in which you havn't even go to the "test" section (aka, beta version, or pre-production model, also called test models), with some holes in the design you do have. I'm happy you're building a cab to your own designs to do what you want, but you really do seem to be lacking in knowledge for the ideas you've conveyed over here. Good luck to you and I hope it does what you want it to do.

[quote name='lee4' post='394881' date='Jan 29 2009, 08:09 PM']Funny how approx 80% of BCers seem to end up with Jazz basses.I shall continue to resist.[/quote] S'alright, it allows the 20% of us to dabble in them occasionally and know we can sell them on.....*cough* soonish, maybe *cough*. Nice collection Sibob, but I think you missed a pun out somewhere

It'll sound different, it lacks the tube and solid state dual preamp of the HA3500, with "tube emulation" instead, it's also quite a bit less powerful. I've only seen a few on here, most people just get the bigger brother (3500) second hand as they're had for pretty much the same price as a new HA2500. Personally, If you're looking at buying a new Hartke, get the LH500. Not only is it gettable for ~£230, which is only £70 more than the HA2500 and the same price as the 3500, it's also double the power. And it comes with a proper tube preamp as well. Getting rave reviews, lots of people picking them up as backup heads and as lightweight main heads. The 500w @ 4 ohms will serve you well enough if you want a 2 cab setup, but even if you run just one 8ohm cab it'll still put out in the region of 350w, which is plenty for pretty much all pub gigs.

So, basically: 1) It's a combo 2) It's going to have minimal control over the tone 3) You don't seem to know much about cab construction as you've mentioned nothing about the internals such as bracing or even if you're going to use wadding/other dampening material, let alone the thickness of the ply (relevent to the amount of bracing). 4) It's all very much an idea and you haven't even made a prototype yet you're pitching it to us. 5) It's not going to be "lightweight" with a powersection it in thats going to power the "400 or 450w output" from 2x12's, not even neo ones at that. To sum up, you're pitching an idea to us, without even the maths to back it up, which offers nothing but your personal preferences in relation to other commerially available cabs. Right. I'd suggest to read this thread by Alex Claber and the cabinets he's now putting into production: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13344"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13344[/url] The man really knows his stuff and you'll learn a lot, bass cabs are an artform AND a science, not either or.

I suspect it's IE8 being sh*t quite frankly, as there's a number of standards compliant browsers (FF, Opera, Safari I think, etc...) that work just fine with the boards. Sounds like a return to the days when you had to have two sets of code in a webpage, one to handle IE and it's quirks and another for everyone else.

Lots of info in the BC Wiki: [url="http://wiki.basschat.co.uk/info:amps:impedance_and_wattage"]http://wiki.basschat.co.uk/info:amps:impedance_and_wattage[/url]

Ooh, whoops! Sorry Chris! Not quite sure how that extra 't' ended up added on there :S However, as we've already come to the conclusion that due to Dood's postcount he's omnipresent through time, ergo he's God, does that mean you're actually Dood's sprog?

Paging Alex and Prosebass, pagin Alex and Prosebass!

Christ, can you confirm what Bod said about only set of pins on the dual pot being connected? It's a '73, doesn't that make it around one of Fender's changeover periods, and the time when they normally go parts bin raiding?

See, this is why I like BC, some other forums have people who'd not get the humour and take it as a full bore insult, here's different Glad you've found a new sig

[quote name='GremlinAndy' post='393338' date='Jan 28 2009, 01:04 AM']Guys you all seem to actually undestand art enough that I'm POSITIVE you actually support my arguments, although your bullshit macho egos won't let you back down. Embrace your inner artist and agree with me.[/quote] Ooooh, how to take that and respond. Ignore it, laugh because it's obviously a silly comment meant for humour, or call you an arrogrant and pretentious arty tosspot for taking a dig at all of us who don't agree with your stance. Choices choices.

What amp and cab do you have? If you've got a budget of £500 it might not be wise to spent it all on a bass, as we've all noted on here recently that quite awsome basses can be had for around £150, such as the Vintage V4, and the golden rule: [b][i]A bad amp and cab will make a top quality bass sound rubbish, while a good amp and cab will let even a bad bass shine.[/i][/b] I ask because from what I can hear on your myspace songs, I quite like that bass tone and there's nothing wrong with it. And asking for advice when you're asking for such a broad spectrum of basses, the only thing that we can truthfully say is: [size=5]Go to shops and try as many as possible[/size]. Sounds a bit harsh, but there's a lot of difference between bass product lines, let alone brands. Are you a jazz neck person or a p-bass neck person? Thick or thin? Wide or narrow? Do you like the very trebley tangy sounds that Rick's give, or do you want a stonking rock sound that T-Birds give. Perhaps you need a bit of burp in your life and only really want somthing with a single coil in the rear, or do you want something that offers a bit more versatility while being excellent at cutting such as a Musicman style pup in a rear. Do you play up near the body more, ergo requiring something with good upper fret access and maybe a neck through, or is that not an issue? etc.. Far too many questions and you yourself will benefit from playing more instruments and knowing at least a reference point if you try out some Fender Jazzes or P-Basses.

Essential Tension has a valid point which you've missed answering directly. If a piece of work* needs validation (in any form, but generally by trying to force debate) before it can be classed as "art", is it really art in the first place? *Piece of work donates an object that presumably had something done to it, it's not assuming it's "art" or vice versa, just an abstract object.

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26654"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=26654[/url] List of luthiers.

[quote name='Pookus' post='393210' date='Jan 27 2009, 09:49 PM']True - but the Mark Hoppus bass still has one pick up. (Not the 2 of a jazz bass)[/quote] It's still a Jazz body, pickups are kind of irrelevant as that's just a personal choice for routing, and the neck has nothing to do with it. Nothing to stop you doing a parts bass build and doing it however you want

It's just a presentation thing I think, or like Del said, just to stop it damaging the paint/chrome on the tuning heads and brigde saddles. Deffo Roto's if they're red though.

It's fairly common, Fender themselves offer artist models that do just that, the Mark Hoppus is a Jazz body with a P neck.

[quote name='GreeneKing' post='392894' date='Jan 27 2009, 04:39 PM']A back to front panel and FX and DI on the side [/quote] Orange pretty much always have the input on the right and go that way round, nothing odd, just a feature of theirs.

+1 to moving the button. Be the first mod I do on these provided I like the feel and such. I'm slightly dissapointed that it's not a standard feature to have it much lower down on the Pro's or even the now discontinued Gibbo Studio versions.

Hmm, prices time! Dawsons have them on their webby for £349 ex delivery for the 4 and £419 for the 5. Hmm, well, that puts them in the higher priced Epiphone bracket, but I was expecting them to be closer to the £400 mark, although they are now direct competitors to Fender MIM's and have the bonus of being neck through and made of alright woods. GAS GAS GAS GAS GAS. Ahem.

It's not that Fretless Wal sixer is it by some chance?

Dunno about you chaps, but I want that checked shirt as well. Edit: In British English, is it a checked shirt, or a chequred (short form, chequed?) shirt?

I'll quickly drop a little question into the works. How loud is that compressor? One of my brothers bought one for use in spray painting models (generally 1:72, but occasional 1:48, generally WWII era stuff), for use inside as a which was for a "hobby" sprayist. The thing is FAR too loud to use inside, it's deafening, even outside it's very loud. I think it's been used once or twice before he went back to using compressed air in cans. It was only a cheapy, iirc it wasn't above £150, possibly under £100, but bit of an eye opener. I'd bear that in mind if you're planning indoor jobbies.