Len_derby

Thanks for the string info guys. Think I'm going to have to get me some flats.

I've got Bronzed roundwound on mine. You guys that use flats, are they specifically made for acoustics or just standard flats? As for using an acoustic bass live - I do it sometimes. Always through an amp, I've never DI-ed one (yet). My experience is that you need to fiddle with you EQ to avoid 'boom' or even the dreaded feedback. Covering the soundhole is supposed to be a guard against feedback but I've never tried it myself. As you're thinking, there are some situations where an acoustic bass looks right in terms of blending in with the rest of the band. I've also got away with playing at 'acoustic' open mic nights without the mutterings I might have got with my P or J.

I always loved his records. I think 'Riptide' was my favourite album. The first time I saw him was in the early '70's in a band called Vinegar Joe. It had two lead singers, Robert Palmer and Elkie Brooks. Brilliant.

[quote name='Rixy' post='1173690' date='Mar 23 2011, 07:09 PM']I believe that I am a decent bassist. I've been called "very good" by others, but I don't want to get cocky. While this is nice and all, I don't really have anyone to play with. I have friends, but they're not into music like I am. I'm really into the current UK Ska/Reggae/Punk scene: Sonic Boom Six, Mouthwash, JB Conspiracy, Jimmy the Squirrel, Stuck in 2nd etc. and it would be really fun to get into that kind of music. Problem is, I barely know any musicians that are into that kind of music. I have a friend I jam with sometimes, but he tends to go out of key all the time and frequently bends notes. I'd just be happy with a simple offbeat jam, but once again I'm kind of stuck in a rut as I don't know many people with similar tastes to mine. I was going to put up an advertisement, but I'm wondering whether I'd be able to play with other people in the first place. The only amp I have is a Roland Microcube. I fear it wouldn't have the volume to hang in with other musicians. I'm completely skint, and while I can play proficiently I can't even afford a decent intermediate bass. I guess what I'm wondering is what did you guys have when you started out playing in bands? Many I'm over thinking and I should just get out there and play? I'd really like to play some form of reggae or ska. I wouldn't mind hanging in the back and laying down some low riddims. I don't really expect to be Les Claypool or Victor Wooten. Do you guys have any advice on my little dilemma?[/quote] Only just seen this. I'm PMing you with details of some friends of mine in Derby who are looking for a bassist. I used to play with them but wasn't able to commit at the time (but I'm not the bassist who's just left). They're mostly rock, (covers + originals) but with quirks, so not exactly what (you think) you're looking for, but from what you've said I think you can cut it. They used to practise at The Music Shed, where they have plenty of back-line for hire. But, don't know if they still do. They've had gigs at the Bless and in Spondon. If they don't give you a fair crack at it I'll personally go and give them all a slap, and I'll tell them that.

[quote name='kevin_lindsay' post='1174712' date='Mar 24 2011, 02:34 PM']As well ascend usual Allen keys, screwdrivers etc, I always take the following to any gigs I do: Towel Liquid soap The reason? To remove the grime from my fingers amassed during gear set up on stage. Some of the folks I played with kind of thought it was strange, but when they too went on stage with clean hands, every one said they felt better when playing. Or maybe myself and the folks I play with are just wierdos? Hahaha[/quote] Yeah, stuff to clean your hands. One of the pubs I play at regularly gives out free food in the interval. Usually pizza, samozas etc, and no cutlery. I only ate once without cleaning my hands afterwards. Disgusting greasy smelly strings. On the spares/tools bit, I'm pretty much the same as most of you. The best string trimmers I've ever found to carry around are Shimano cable cutters, designed for bicycle gear and brake cables. Light and lethal.

I've got a 2003 one, USA made with the double J bridge pickup. Bought from new, and she's done everything I've asked of her and more. I've never been tempted to change anything (apart from strings!). The body contouring (which you can see on KevB's photos) is excellent and this is an extremely comfortable bass to have around your neck for a long time.

[quote name='Evil Undead' post='1169868' date='Mar 20 2011, 07:38 PM']is a bit of a problem lately I think I've just decided that I suck at bass and will never really be any good, but that's never bothered me before I've always known that! So how do you guys deal with crisis in confidence, lack of motivation, generic laziness etc?[/quote] I know just how you feel. It does pass though! I think that when we learn things or develop skills our ability doesn't go up in a nice straight line, but rather in steps. Sometimes we're all on the flat bit of the step..... Assuming that you play in some kind of band, why not make a comittment to playing live? Maybe somewhere you haven't been before or with new material? I find that works for me. If it wasn't for the pressure of a looming gig I'm sure I'd find it hard to practise. Len

Oh yes.

[quote name='Ancient Mariner' post='1168124' date='Mar 19 2011, 12:15 PM']Most people mellow after 2 or 3 decades of playing, and bands that are lively and exciting at first very often become more refined and less 'fun'. There are exceptions, but I find sometimes that I miss the reckless energy and raw performance from a mature band's performance: for me, refinement and subtle technique are no substitute.[/quote] Yes, I agree with that Mr Mariner (calling you Ancient seems rude). Players have got to still have the 'fire in their belly'. And, yes, it does seem to go out with some.

The idea that, in terms of talent and the ability to play well and entertain, age =bad thing is fairly recent (in terms of the history of music) and totally mad. In my opinion it's all driven by the fashion/'pop' culture/advertising evil axis. We're dupes if we accept it. Ageism is rare in classical music, jazz and blues. Sometimes the opposite happens (which is also silly). If you've got it, you've got it. Age doesn't matter

[quote name='Linus27' post='1165147' date='Mar 16 2011, 11:27 PM']Nice one, thanks. Just seen the Roland Cube 100 100 Watt 1x12 Cab Combo which is £279. Might just do the trick.[/quote] I highly recommend these. I've had one for about 5 years.

Success with 'new' gear. I bit the bullet and took the Ibanez acoustic bass guitar out for its first live outing (without a solid-body backup, to make sure I didn't chicken out). It was better than OK really, a nice deep resonant sound through my Roland Cube 100. The band line up was me, an acoustic guitarist playing with a piezo pickup through a combo, an electric piano and a violinist. The set was a bit 'lounge jazz' but a very nice way to spend the early part of a Sunday evening. And visually the acoustic fitted in with rest of the band spot-on. I got quite a few comments. In Britain at least, lots of folk don't seem to have ever seen an acoustic bass guitar. More than one person said 'Thats, interesting, I didn't know they made those'. It's never going to play like an electric, but for some live situations I think it's going to be right choice.

Two big influences for me in the seventies were John Wetton and Ric Grech. I loved Wetton's playing (and singing) with Moghul Thrash, Family and King Crimson. I saw him in the Crimson trio with him, Bill Bruford on drums and, of course, Lord Fripp on guitar. Wetton more than held his own with those two musical egg-heads and he looked as cool as f*** I never liked Asia though. To me they sounded juvenile after Family and Crimson. Ric Grech played with Family (see the theme here?), Traffic and Blind Faith. Good, solid bassman, underrated I think. Any sideman of Steve Winwood's has to be good. Sadly passed at the age of 43 in 1990.

That looks lovely. Very appropriate albums in the background of the photo too.

[quote name='bh2' post='1150789' date='Mar 5 2011, 06:15 PM']Clothes[/quote] Or not, particularly as they're using 70's Porn as a marketing style. I'm with Burrito on this one. I think a lot of audiences expect a band to dress appropriate to the musical style. Also they've usually 'dressed up' in some way to go to the venue, even if it's just a 'TFI Friday' pub gig. I play in a blues/rock/Americana outfit, and most of my stuff comes from charity shops. Typically a loudish pin-stripe suit jacket worn over a plain shirt, skinny leg black jeans worn over short length cowboy boots. Oh, and of course plenty of rings on both hands. I'm long, lanky and a bit of a dick-head so seems to work.

Dear Mr. Fantasy by Traffic. Vocals by the wonderful Steve Winwood.

[quote name='3V17C' post='1150693' date='Mar 5 2011, 04:33 PM']Guitarist in one of my bands also plays in a signed band who tour all over the place fairly regularly... 7a.m. yesterday morning I get a text from him saying "How do you fancy a few gigs in New Zealand at the end of the month as a replacement is desperately needed - call me a.s.a.p!" so.... obviously I call him straight away thinking ooh that'll be sweet. ... turns out he'd texted me accidentally and had meant to text the drummer!! D'oh!! what a tool! grrrrrrrrrrrr C[/quote] Or could it be he isn't actually sure of what you and the drummer's names are? 'I don't bother to learn the oiks names, you know, it only makes it sad when you take them to the vet to be put down'. BTW, what's it like playing with Ron S. ? I saw him with Ollie Brown last October at the Flowerpot in Derby. He plays great bass for a guitarist ;-)

There's some good advice here from lots of experienced players. As with most things in life, if you wait until you feel you're ready - it'll never happen. Go for it. What's the worst that can happen? In the long run the whole experience will be invaluable. You'll soon discover what most of us already have on this forum - playing music with other people is probably the most fun you can have with your clothes on. Yes, let us know how it goes! A newbie diary would be brill....

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1150174' date='Mar 5 2011, 12:49 AM']Ok was setting off for a rehearsal tonight... in a major rush to get to Bristol..Heard a grinding noise as we pulled off ( i wasnt driving) so stopped to see what it was... t was my Aguilar head being pushed up the drive under the car..!! ARGH!!.. It was in its head bag...i think the bag took the brunt of the very rough tarmac.. as its been ripped apart.. there is a little scuffing on the amp itself, but nothing major and it still works...????? i sh*t you not i nearly fainted when i realised... how could i have been so stupid!!! This amp is built like a tank though...im amazed it still works... and the bag did its job in a big way..[/quote] Check the car. It's probably a write-off.

I've been reading this thread with lots of interest. Anyone else read 'Electric Eden' by Rob Young? It came out last year, subtitled 'Unearthing Britain's visionary music' it's a big fat attempt to survey and explain 'folk' music in Britain. Lots of stuff about Fairport as you would expect, but it really is a good read all round. Highly recommended and not just for 'folk' fans. The author does a great job of illustrating how all music of all genres links and inter-weaves. Personally I like the Fairport with Sandy Denny on vocals and Ashley Hutchings on bass best. But we ain't going to see that band live again!

Any body else remember Humble Pie? That, for me, was Frampton's finest hour. Steve Marriott and Peter Frampton sharing lead guitar and lead vocals. Although to be fair Marriott was the stand-out vocalist and Frampton the stand-out guitarist. The rhythm section of Greg Ridley on bass and Jerry Shirley on drums were no slouches, they couldn't afford to be behind those two. Driving, early seventies rock with a great dollop of bluesy soul. They seem to have faded from collective memory now - we need a BBC4 special! Check out the live double 'Performance - Rockin' the Filllmore'. I remember that when 'Frampton comes alive' came out it sounded very MOR and wimpy in comparison (to my teenage ears). I learned to love it since though.

Hi Steve, You like a challenge then? A great idea, did you come up with it? I'm very much Derbyshire-based (we're not able to get out of the sheep-pens very often), but it's only just down the road from you and I'd like to help if I can. Currently my band (Daz Kelly Band) has only got an August gig booked and that's for the 11th. Too late for your current plans, but if you did need to change or extend your timeframe we could at the very least accommodate you as a 'guest' player/singer. Here's a Facebook page I find useful for the Derby scene [url="http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Derby-Unsigned-Gig-Guide/109630035724544"]http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Derby...109630035724544[/url] Several small to medium venues and various open-mic nights. I'll put the feelers out. Len PS I'm the father of twins too. Although they are now 17 and blessed with good health they were pretty sickly as premature babies so I maybe have a little understanding of what's motivating you.

Hiya, Just a couple of personal opinions, based on my own (old git) experience. Life's far too short to spend time doing things you don't enjoy. It's always worth trying to put things right before moving away from something that doesn't appear to work. If you have the time, try a side-project. I was once disgruntled with a band I was in. I deputised in another outfit for relief and discovered my main band wasn't too bad after all. The grass usually looks greener on the other side! It's up to you if you tell the others about a side-project, but I can recommend it to give a sense of perspective. Finally, something that happened to me. I was in a thrash-metal/punk band, and the singer was a 24 carat git. One night I'd had enough of the stage invasions he encouraged so during the next melee I took the opportunity to clock him across the jaw without him knowing it was me what dun'it. I couldn't possibly suggest you do that, but by God it felt good. Good luck, keep the passion.

Interesting stuff. I reckon that just about everybody who's on Basschat would agree that playing music with other people is probably the most fun you can have with your clothes on. I also think that in an ideal financial situation a lot of us would actually pay to play, not just do it for free! I remember the first time I got paid for a gig I gave the money to charity. In my youthful foolishness I felt guilty about being paid for doing something I loved. But now I've got two big hungry teenage daughters both learning to drive it's a different story!