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[quote name='Horizontalste' timestamp='1385315090' post='2286781'] My lighthearted comment that didn't offend anyone has been removed! What's happening to this place. [/quote] What is happening to this place?

I have both and gig with them...5 string and a 4 string with the Hipshot Dtuner. For me the Hipshot is not a patch on the 5er!!

Really like Gong and Dave Sturt is a great player. Those Vigier basses are awesome. I owned a graphite Arpege in the 80's and on reflection it was probably the best bass that I have owned.

Well, your body is certainly sending you a message. Seeing the doctor is a start - have you considered hypnotherapy?

[quote name='RagaMuffin' timestamp='1385230259' post='2285907'] I have recently wanted a new bass and there are two contenders. [b]Musicman 2/3 eq 4 string stingray[/b] or [b]Sandberg basic 4[/b] Now I know the point about how a "Stingray's tone cannot be replicated" and I definitely agree with that, however I feel the Sandberg has a lot more versatility and I know others have said about that. I'm not sure if this has already been asked but can anyone help me decide. Money is not an issue. Thanks [/quote] Play both and you will answer your own question....that will reveal your favourite. Anybody else will have their own subjective opinion gathered through their individual perceptions.....

Love the look of these basses...very nice!

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1385231020' post='2285925'] Saw them a few times. Awesome live, tho' I thought symphony x were better than them last time .opeth also. Have a couple of their cds and DVDs (one still unplayed). Don't play them at all . [/quote] +1 to Opeth...they seriously impressed me when I saw them.

I like Yes too....but have personally never enjoyed the music Dream Theater make.

Its worth the price to you if you are happy to pay that price for it. The opinion of others is subjective.

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1385060992' post='2284067'] I'm only vaguely curious about this, I reckon I'm all 'Rush live albummed out'. [/quote] I felt this way several Rush live albums ago....

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1385113304' post='2284537'] Nope... and I've never seen one with LED's either. [/quote] Lol, or a hipshot Dtuner!

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1385071510' post='2284253'] Depends on the timeframe obviously...but I'm thinking 50-100 years...if a graphite neck was properly cared for too. [/quote] Hmmm, well lets put it this way...I have never seen an antique Stradivarius violin with a graphite neck.

That is a bass that sits comfortably at the top of the food chain. Congratulations!

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1384814714' post='2281180'] I suspect they'll last much, much longer than wooden necks if they're well made. [/quote] Really? I am a fan of Graphite - but don't see why wood wouldn't last as long as a composite if cared for.

I'm afraid this seems to be typical with Alembic. Try the Alembic club forum for advice..very friendly and helpful.

Everybody has their own take on this, but in my world the component parts of a musical instrument should fit together properly.

Personally this annoys me...a lot. Fender take the biscuit with this - it is slack build quality consistency and there is no need for it at any price. Brands like Yamaha and Ibanez, even at an extremely low price point, would never tolerate this......

Any music shop that puts instruments on show, for sale, without even the most basic of preparation is cheating the customer out of a vital part of the service they should be providing for the potential customer. Its basics folks.

Personally I agree with the OP. If I pick up a bass in a shop and it plays like crap I am not buying it ............

Really disappointed to hear this as I seriously liked the look of the Electra in sunburst as a cheap gigging warhorse.

[quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1384606796' post='2278617'] I float all the time - I never rest on the pickup. [/quote] Me too.

It's an Ibanez...that is a guarantee that it will be extremely well designed, well made, feel great, sound right and be value for money. What else matters?