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[quote name='AntLockyer' timestamp='1450990784' post='2937757'] I'm just compelled to do it. I love listening to those bands and feel inspired and creative when I do. That's as far as my analysis goes. [/quote] I seriously dig this attitude. Know your craft, know your heart, do the work, don't overanalyse. Success with this project! Bert

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1451031924' post='2937895'] did i say minutes? i meant milliseconds [/quote] Bah! You bloody softy lefty, being way too understanding and treehuggingly tolerant! 15 milliseconds! Bop anytime for me, yes. Trad gives me the wish to die on the spot.

As soon as Motown release a Motown SR-Lambda Nova Signature, I'll start listening to them.

Aye, but most of the posts here talk about Naetharu's listening pleasure. He specifically asked about help finding something to listen to, and only added that he would like to play it later as well. I think he'll be OK with what has been proposed, and can always report back again about his findings.

In keeping this totally pc, I wish everybody a very Happy Merry Season's Christmas! (No booze or food for me though. Too close to actually reaching my december 31st weight-loss goal.)

Living in the Past! Huge class. Pure class. Great call, Neck-of-the-slightly-thinner-persuasion! Edit: I got so carried away that I totally overlooked Walk On The Wild Side. Another classic and another great call.

Since many jazz styles build on the styles that came before them, I see little harm in simply starting with very old jazz (most of it is simple music to a modern ear), and working your way through the decades. You're bound to pick up faves on the road, and could easily (with our guidance if wished for) delve deeper into the stuff you like. An experienced musical ear does not, IME and IMO, need to exclusively go for the most accessible stuff. Whilst I'd say it may be good to avoid AMM, Derek Bailey and Evan Parker in the beginning, those are in fact some of the names who drew me personally into jazz to start with. IOW there are no absolutes, and liking something is more important than understanding something (for example because it's accessible). With your background from electronica in mind: Have you heard Hooverphonic ("A New Stereophonic Sound Spectacular", their first album, initially under the Hoover name) or Xploding Plastix ("Amateur Girlfriends Go Proskirt Agents", their debut)? Also, I feel a lot of acid jazz, whilst only marginally referring to jazz's structures, does convey a lot of the feel, and might be a soft way in. Look up Bubinga's recent thread on Also the elevator West Coast jazzpop on the GRP label might provide a way in. Dave Grusin and Lee Ritenour are some names. Pat Metheny's "Bright Size Life" or his "Still Life (Talking)" may be of your liking. Also the pretty music on ECM, like Jan Garbarek's "Dis", "It's OK to Listen to the Gray Voice" or "I took Up the Runes" might be a nice start. As to more "core" jazz, I'd dive into Miles Davis and John Coltrane, and thereafter report back here about what you actually liked of it. Both of them have vast arrays of musical styles and complexities. Some of it is dead simple and pretty. Some of it is relatively far out, but in general, if you like the generally more demanding free jazz right away, I see no reason to avoid it.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1450293889' post='2931493'] I keep my crazy first wife in the attic. [/quote] It keeps your new wife younger, yes?

Seriously though, I was happy this came up, as I needed the reminder about cookies. Wouldn't have thought of that at all, as I've had similar problems - but they were based on difficulties whitelisting sites in AdBlock when those sites use external login sites. So: thank you for not deleting the thread.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1450379950' post='2932281'] Subliminal! Get it on the conspiracy thread! [/quote] Will do.

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1450375407' post='2932217'] Tull are a winter band for me. [/quote] Ha! For me too, in that much of the stuff to me has an element of being inside the house, warming oneself close to the fireplace, drinking hot cocoa, whilst outside, cold winds terrorize the icy landscape. I've always just presumed the band's sound and folk inspirations had something to do with that, but today I see I may also have been manipulated by all the song and album titles, like all the different Christmas songs, the Christmas album, Skating Away... , Solstice Bells, Stormwatch, etc. Maybe even the snot running down his nose!

[quote name='spectoremg' timestamp='1450287560' post='2931411'] Ring Out Solstice Bells by Tull. 1. Great tune. 2. No mention of Christmas. 3. A band totally on their game. 4. John Glascock. [/quote] Ah! It has been said. Also, it has been said better than I could've. Here it is then, and I feel it's only one of many good Jethro Tull songs with elements of Christmas and/or winter, one other being Swimming Away in the Shallow Water of the New Summer Day ... er... orwhatsitscalled. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2mh5zPj7Lc[/media]

bob hund played i Ystad. That's good enough for me. Välkommen, Pelle! Hoppast du gillar det här. Bert Obligatory attempt at Swedish: Pelle, vet du vad? Hoppas att du inte kyssar hon där Stine. Då blir jag verkligen avundsjuk! Du [b]måste[/b] älska bara mig och Båtsmann!

The New Adventures: "Come On" (Chuck Berry) has one of my fave bass intros. Here in a live version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpznlccZvCY

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1450087773' post='2929356'] No-one is ever happy with the sounds that you select. [/quote] Hahaha. So true! But... IME this by large is a capacity of amateur bands. Not science, mind, but I've received loads of this stuff only in amateur pop/rock bands (I've never been in a pro one), and never in professional jazz bands and classical ensembles. My knee jerk impression is that it may have a lot to do with the latter formations having single leaders.

Derek Birkett - Flux of Pink Indians JJ Burnell Paul Simonon Sting Colin Moulding There certainly are others I can't remember right now. ...and I'm happy the title says "fave", not "best".

There are lots of British keyboard players on gearslutz.com (formerly gearslutz.co.uk) - a vibrant site, unlike some keyboard fora of which the names escape me right now.

Yes: Close to the Edge - - not counting the river sounds at the very beginning. It has consistently sent shivers down my spine for more than four decades.

As the guy who taught Johann Sebastian Bach to compose, and taught Mozart, Miles Davis, Bill Bruford and thousands of others too BTW, I can only add that everyone but me can just hang their instruments in the willows. If you really are into the work done by these backward simpletons Paul McCartney and Jaco Pastorius, then you just haven't got it, you indiscriminate trolls! Worded more seriously: There exists a concept that I don't know the name of, but it's drawn like a triangle: at the bottom of it is the knowledge/insight that roughly is shared by everyone. As you get closer to its top, fewer and fewer people will possess that level of knowledge/insight. Close to the top you have those few who know and understand most. Of course stuff in the real world is more complicated, but that does not really matter. The point is that some people out there could "rightfully" say, if they wanted, that everyone on BC should hang up their basses and do something more appropriate. I'm sure we would [b]all[/b] appreciate...

Bah! That is sooo Gifshopped, I've heard the soundtrack, and in reality the bear's playing in B major.

[quote name='colgraff' timestamp='1449675579' post='2925872'] I get McCartney, but not Pastorius. Do I continue to play bass or not? [/quote] :-D You are granted permission to continue playing bass for a period of three (3) months. Unlined fretted only! Other rules may apply.

[quote name='visog' timestamp='1449298424' post='2922306'] Agree with the general awesomeness of Relayer - TGOD and Squire's lines within it.... but (gasp) the production is not as good as say, ;'Fragile' so it makes some of lines a little hard to hear with all the rest of it going on! [/quote] You might wish to listen to the new Steven Wilson remix - out both in stereo and in surround 5.1, IMS. By large his remixes get rave reviews, and fans report they finally can hear everything. Google will tell whether that goes for Relayer as well. AFAIK, he's done several albums by each of the following: - Gentle Giant, - Jethro Tull, - King Crimson. - XTC, - Yes.

[quote name='neilp' timestamp='1448981065' post='2919765'] Do you know what frequency your A string vibrates at? 55Hz... [/quote] Yes, everybody knows. Do you assume they don't know this? [quote name='neilp' timestamp='1448981065' post='2919765'] You need to be able to reproduce those frequencies accurately. [/quote] No, you don't. It's a matter of taste. You may [b]choose[/b] to, and in case you'll need lotsa power because the amplitude in those low frequencies is trouserflappingly huge. However, as said you do not [b]need[/b] to, as in the mix the important information about the bass guitar's sound is in the changing amplitudes of the overtones. Most knowledgeable people I've seen discussing this on BC state that gear going down to roughly 100Hz is good enough, though [b]some[/b] discussion does exist.

[quote name='Behlmene' timestamp='1448669928' post='2917399'] No hard feelings on my end Bert, hopefully not on yours either. [/quote] Oh no, Scott. Far from it. No worries. I just failed to convey my state of mind, which was not unfriendly, and my (wry? - don't really know what that word means) smile. best, bert