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Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome! Bert

Welcome from a keyboard player trying to learn to play bass! bert

Welcome! bert

Welcome! bert

Welcome! bert

Welcome! bert

Welcome! bert

Welcome! bert

Hey Fraser, Sorry for the bewilderment. It wasn't my goal. I'm guessing you may be using a tablet or mobile phone when reading BC, and not see what I was referring to. On the full computer version, to the left of the posting itself are from top to bottom: - your login name - your advancement status on BC (this is not an official term. I made it up in lack of knowledge.) - your avatar - some other stuff, like where you live and what your interests are. In your case, the advancement status reads "No longer a newbie". This only means you have written more than 10 posts. But as you may gather, I couldn't resist the temptation to make you aware that you are NOT a newbie anymore. Nice, eh? BC makes sure you feel good about your progress! best, bert

Honestly, I'm more afraid of his mouth than of his shoes.

[quote name='Absolute Beginner' timestamp='1388825760' post='2326416'] I'm new to the world of bass playing [/quote] No, Fraser, you aren't. It says so clearly under your login name and above where your avatar is missing. Sorry, can't help with books. Have no idea.

To answer the question, I'm happy to report I've never experienced this. On the contrary I'd say. I've only encountered singers, guitarists, bassists and drummers who would not, or could not, follow me when I started playing my own songs that they'd never heard before, or when I exploded in spontaneous, enormous reworkings of the material that should have been known to them. Twats, all of them. But seriously, I have indeed not experienced it. The keys guy from the OP seems like a twat, but OTOH he may also just have been on a totally different page. I myself have ruined a concert piece when as a music student depping on piano, finding out too late I was expected to do advanced stuff in a style I knew zilch about. Who was the twat? The guy who ruined the piece during concert, or the guy who came hunting after me through the corridors in such a way I probably would have been lucky if loud, well worded verbal abuse was all I'd received had he caught me? Probably neither, but we sure as hell were on different pages, and communication obviously had been lacking before I was asked to do the piece. BTW, the twat was obviously really me, as the hunter has made more albums, and also happens to listen to the name William Scott Bruford.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1388844393' post='2326743'] Has anyone else experienced this kind of 'forward-into-the-past' -type weirdness, or am I alone in this?? [/quote] Not me, but I seem to remember the band Nucleus at one point consisted of the exact same people as one of the later Soft Machine line-ups. Soft Machine, Nucleus, Discreet ... a good line in my book.

[Throws cap up in the air] Thanks, Ped! I too warmly applaud any action that makes BC a more considerate, kinder place. However, how is one going to moderate when people post "lawfully" but mean - without strictly breaking the rules? Point in case: recently, a known BC member (not me) was treated very unkind in Off Topic by people who only alluded to the person in question, without mentioning names. (BTW; me too I'm avoiding names right now, mostly to try and protect that victim's anonymity but not only because of that.) This victim's anonymity (I don't know the correct term for it, but allow me to call it "anonymity" just for now) made sure that he either didn't defend himself and risked the false notions about him getting even more cemented, or did defend himself at the risk of being called paranoid. Another member asked who this person was, and a mod of sorts stated something along the lines of naming names making things worse (= more cruel?). The offenders seemed not corrected or moderated or whatever. In the mean time, as far as I can understand, there [i][b]was[/b][/i] appalling behaviour, and there [b][i]was[/i][/b] a victim. (BTW, I too, in response to something I'd written, have received posts and PMs that to me seemed from a different planet altogether, as if the "bad" that I'd done gave other people a free pass to write whatever vicious stuff they liked. However, please accept that this post is not a "Booohooh! Poor me!" post. I hate course, unkind behaviour, but can absolutely tackle it if that is needed. I write this paragraph only to make it very clear that the preceding paragraph really isn't about me (couldn't be either, as I avoid Off Topic as much as I can).) My take is that generally, some people care less than others about BC, other members or other aspects, and are more willing than others to find ways to hurt other people or to just write frustrations off their chest whilst carefully keeping their texts within certain boundaries so as to be hard to moderate. Some people seem allergic to open visors. I think the important question is: Is the moderator team willing to and equipped for tackling these people? If not, I fear that stricter moderation is only going to lead to a raise in sub-surface aggression, and looser moderation might actually bring BC closer to the aimed for result. Rather than enforcing rules about forbidden behaviour, is there a way one can enforce rules of good behaviour? Mind you, I don't have the answer to that question, but I do know that when I worked in child protection, we made contracts with kids from dysfunctional families, and every single sentence in those contracts was about what was allowed - nothing about what was forbidden. Worked a treat. BTW, I'm aware that BC is not the kids from dysfunctional families. . . . . . . BC is the whole dysfunctional family!

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1388778914' post='2326041'] I've neither heard or even seen a Barefaced cab in the flesh, and can't afford one anyways. They do however, seem to get a disproportionate amount of criticism. A simple question about a handle turned into a product assassination...problems with handles have apparently hit Markbass at some time, we don,t however see posts then saying the whole product is crap. Others seem to confuse not liking the finish with saying that barefaced have a poor finish. Criticism is valid only if it has substance and isn't just the usual British 'have a knock' at something. [/quote] This sounds reasonable and level-headed to me. Someone said something about the harshest criticism coming mainly from people who were on BC when Alex started out, and that was my personal impression too. It may be wrong of course, but in case this is indeed correct, there may be a case of old feelings making people less open and flexible, and reading stuff about BF like the guy from the hot place reads the bible. I've never seen or heard a BF, but to me the positives seem to outweigh to negatives by far. As a result, I had in fact ordered two, but had to put the process to rest due to family circumstances, so can't comment from experience yet.

Thanks, Waynepunkdude! Some better pin-up posters there. I can now keep all my ITWT CDs, thanks to you.