Opticaleye

Love my Geezer P. Considering routing my Sandberg VS4 for a PJ set .

He always says that he uses old Rotosound Swing Bass on his Fender Jazz.

I have 2 Barefaced One10's and they are a good match for my LM2. They get pretty loud considering their size but for the majority of gigs I use one TKS1126 with my Quilter BB800 especially if I've never played the venue before.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1503842183' post='3361137'] I assume the poster above found a random 12V PSU and stuck an adapter on the end to make it usable with the Le Bass. [/quote] Correct. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear. It was the supply from a DHA pedal if I recall which had the opposite polarity. I used a One spot CS7 mostly when the LeBass was on my board.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1503760994' post='3360781'] Hi - which polarity reversing adapter were you using? [/quote] It was something like this [url="http://www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/RockBoard-by-Warwick-Reverse-Polarity-Converter/1FV0"]http://www.gear4musi...-Converter/1FV0[/url] I believe I got it from somewhere no longer in business though. The later power supplies from Two Notes now work fine.

There was an issue with Lm2 Speakon outputs where they were very fussy about the connectors that went into them. I have one that only works with the cable a certain way round. I labeled the connectors as Amp and Cab. Another lead works with both connectors. This was reported on forums at the time (2008 onwards as I recall)

I've tried numerous P pickups from Seymour Duncan, Fender Original 62, Vintage Fender, Wizard and even the excellent G&L MFD's but easily my favourite is the Geezer signature P from EMG (based on Bobby Vega's 63 P pickup). It just has "that" sound.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1497269314' post='3316891'] It's all wrapped ready to go. But let me / unwrap and give it a final try without the B3n for our educational benefit, as that is an interesting point to clarify...Nope still exactly the same whine with the B3n unplugged. Please note there is no whine at all from the B3n itself (despite it's apparent underpowering) just this one (relatively cheap) DI pedal. [/quote] That clears that up then! Just thought it was worth considering as whine is a known issue when daisychaining. My Basswitch Dual Comp whines when it's daisychained with anything too. Everything works ok with my Onespot CS7 power supply though.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1497251838' post='3316735'] That is correct - the DC8 has two 300mA outputs (one of which I'm using for my Smooth Hound wireless, which also won't function on less) and you are also correct that the spec on the Zoom website is suggesting a 500mA power requirement. I kinda assumed that the pedal will either work or it won't in terms of minimum power supply and the B3n seems to be working just fine on 300mA. [b]What are the guys on the [i]other[/i] forum saying happens to the B3n's performance with sub 500mA?[/b] If there is a performance fall off, according to the other forum, and I need to use a parallel adaptor flex to increase the current, it would be great if I could blend a 9V and the adjacent 12V output. These are not isolated from each other - but that shouldn't matter as they would be going to the same pedal but I'm concerned that would raise the voltage to an average of 10.5V which the Zoom probably wouldn't like / could damage the circuitry? (I don't have another spare 9V 300mA output, as this is already being used). I could, alternatively, blend with one of the spare 100mA outputs to get to 400mA which will then be "nearly there" on the power front but whether that would make any noticeable difference, I don't know! [/quote] I did a quick search but it's 98 pages! The best I could find was someone experienced whine on another pedal that was underpowered. I would imagine though that there would be glitches on the patches that used the most CPU power as well as the dreaded whine. If you check the DI pedal without the B3n plugged in does it still whine? Or have you sent it back already?

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1497217649' post='3316657'] Hi - thanks and that is useful to know. I'm actually using a Ciocks DC8 for power which provides separate isolated outputs (and no daisy chain being used either). The "ground shift" button on the Donner made no difference to this whine and switching the cab sim from left to right made it ten times worse - from audible to quite loud. And the LED light on this little pedal is ridiculously bright compared to the rest of the pedals, but I could have lived with that if it hadn't been for the whine! Btw this was on the "unbalanced" 1/4" out going to the amp and not the balanced DI out (I didn't get that far!). I'm assuming that the micro DI pedal with the "Fender" badge are exactly the same inside - they look identical from outside other than a black Fender finish? Dood and a couple of others have found their Fender micro DIs to be good (albeit they would have paid double for the same piece of kit). But you can pay too LITTLE for kit right? And if I do, I shouldn't be expecting the same quality as a DI pedal that costs three times the price. I guess there's a reason they can flog these new for £26! It may be just a central London thing, though, with higher levels of background interference here - we're never too far away from tube and railway lines! But I'm not getting any whine from the rest of my pedal board, so I have to assume it's something to do with this particular pedal. Anyway the Donner DI is going back via Amazon tomorrow at no real loss to me apart from a slight sense of disappointment! [/quote] Looking at the spec for the DC8 I notice that is only capable of 300ma per section. Are you using a current doubler? The B3n needs 500ma minimum and according to people on the[i] other [/i]forum this is necessary for the B3n to work correctly.

[quote name='Al Krow' timestamp='1497192817' post='3316442'] Hah - that Donner micro DI pedal isn't for me! One of my shorter lived pedals: adds an annoying high pitched squeal to the signal which I can't be doing with! Will be going back via Amazon shortly methinks:) [/quote] Are you running it from the same un-isolated power source? The B3N is known to introduce a high pitched whine when daisy chained with any other pedal.

[quote name='CameronJ' timestamp='1496482927' post='3311765'] TKS 1126 for me. I only have one and I'm not sure I'd ever need 2 for anything other than aesthetic reasons - obviously depends on what kind of music/band you're dealing with. These things can seriously drink power though and pump out major lows so make sure you've got sufficient wattage to feed it! I'm running an 800watt head into mine @ 8 Ohms. The cab itself is somewhat bigger than most 112s though, mostly due to the added 6 inch driver but IMO it's worth it for the sound you get as a result. [/quote] I love my TKS1126/Quilter BB800 combination. I gigged with 2 the other day and it was monstrous but I have never [b][i]needed[/i][/b] to use more than 1.

I had a Markbass 210hf (early double ported version) and it had almost too much low end. I used to pair mine with a Traveller 210 and that was great for big gigs. Neither cab was a perfect one cab solution for me though. I'd imagine the current 210hf with the single port would be better balanced as a single option and 2 would be even better.

I've had 6 Sandbergs and currently still have 4 (2 Umbos, a newer model VS4 and a 2004 VM4). Obviously I like them a lot . I find them very even across the fretboard with excellent playability and construction. The newer models seem lighter (my VS4 is 7.5lbs!) but none of my older ones are particularly heavy.

I loved the 12-3 when I tried one. A very smooth upper mid/ high end. At the time I wanted a taller cab to use as a one cab solution so I bought a TKS1126 (and then another ) but this was a fantastic cab unlike anything else I've tried.

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1493661565' post='3289821'] Just gone through the relevant documents and I think it only applies to amplifier outputs (75v DC or greater) and not speaker cabinet inputs... Even then my Mesa Four:88 only had jack type speaker sockets and was CE marked - perhaps it did not meet the 75v DC requirement? [/quote] I just read a post over there from Mesa's development engineer saying that the industry moved over to speakons due to the requirement of the EU directive. Puzzling how the amp is allowed 1/4" and a speakon. Edit: It [i]may[/i] just be amps after all, but most manufacturers use speakons on cabs now for the same safety reasons

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1493661565' post='3289821'] Just gone through the relevant documents and I think it only applies to amplifier outputs (75v DC or greater) and not speaker cabinet inputs... Even then my Mesa Four:88 only had jack type speaker sockets and was CE marked - perhaps it did not meet the 75v DC requirement? [/quote] I'm not sure. I read it as it says "[color=#777777][font=Roboto, sans-serif][size=3][i][b]any[/b][/i] connector capable of carrying more than 50 volts must be protected against inadvertent contact."[/size][/font][/color] [font=Roboto, sans-serif]Reading the Quilter thread over on the other forum, that was their understanding.[/font] [font=Roboto, sans-serif]It's not a requirement in the US but it's highly desirable.[/font]

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1493656418' post='3289775'][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif][size=3] What regs are those ? Plenty of guitar cabs with jack sockets only so unless there are bass cab specific regulations ? [/size][/font][/color] [/quote] I found this if it helps. [color=#777777][font=Roboto, sans-serif][size=3] A major breakthrough for the live industry came in 1987, with Neutrik’s debut of the speakON created specifically for speaker connections. A new EU European Low Voltage Directive required that any connector capable of carrying more than 50 volts must be protected against inadvertent contact. Obviously, other connectors — such as banana plugs and 1/4-inch styles — did not meet this requirement.[/size][/font][/color]

The cabs are 1/4" jack only and would not meet EU safety regs i believe. I'm not expecting them over here anytime soon.

[quote name='jimfist' timestamp='1492793075' post='3283309'] Zoom needs to get us a GK800RB amp model and a Hartke aluminum 4x10!! [/quote] My vote is for a decent B-15 and a Noble Pre

I've only tried mine at home so far but first impressions of the B3n are that the quality of the amp,cab and drive sims have been improved over the B3. The other effects are also better quality but the 4 parameter limit (or 8 if the effect uses 2 slots) has made the control of certain effects less versatile. Some effects that had 5 or 6 parameters are now missing or cut down feature wise. The lack of a DI and USB recording interface don't worry me too much as I have alternatives but some will be disappointed. I am keenly awaiting the next update but I am concerned that March's updates were only for the Zoom's guitar pedals.

The Quilter BB800 has an XLR in to work as a power amp and is tiny. You get the added bonus of a quality "tubey but transparent" sounding preamp . The power section is an upgraded QSC K10/12 module especially enhanced for bass.

4 amps - Quilter BB800, Markbass TTE801, Markbass LM11, Markbass MiniMark 602. Cabs 2x TKS1126, 2x Barefaced One10 7 basses and an EUB. From an amp point of view I only use the Quilter at the moment in my current band. The TTE is more coloured and I may use it if a certain project requires it.

I have 2 x TKS1126 cabs (although I rarely use both) and they share a similar design and 12" driver with the Fearless F112. IMO,with full range cabs, there has to be something in the chain to curb the low end at certain gigs. I have found that typical bass controls on amps work less well than High Pass Filters that can operate at [u]up to[/u] 120hz or units with cab sims such as the Zoom B3/MS60-B. I also think that you will get more out of these 3012LF based cabs with more watts but you should be able to get to a useable volume with most 500w@4ohms heads. I'm not familiar with the BB2 but the advantage of having the option of so much low end as an option is that I can have confidence that one TKS cab and an 800w head will be enough for virtually any gig. Unfortunately I'm not able to say the same about my 2 x Barefaced 110's which I've had struggle in carpeted pubs even.

The FS are a fair bit stiffer and have more mids. The FL's are great on a bass with strong mids but, on the wrong bass, can get you lost in the mix IME.