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[quote name='punkypuncher' timestamp='1324050515' post='1470307'] OK Orange have replaced my Terror Bass Head with a new 1,lets see if i kill this within 50 gigs,if so im going Ampeg. Oh & i still not sure what the fault was ? Orange your on probation. [/quote] did you buy this brand new and provided receipts etc.. if not and it's over a year, I'd say you've done very well mate. Not all amp companies would do that without a fight. New have a new one now Are you sure your comments shouldn't be 'thanks Orange, let's see how this goes'?

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1323959556' post='1469199'] Haven't we done this recently? I know topics get recycled a lot on BC..... [/quote] Sorry I'm not on BC that much to know.. *slight lie about time on BC*

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[b]Winston Blissett[/b] (Masstive Attack and more) - I did a few gigs with him years back - simple and phat grooves. Musical player in EVERY genre [b]Kevin Simpson[/b] - A local friend of mine - again simple and phat groove and so musical. He's from a family of top musicians his brother is an amazing guitarist and viola player. Kevin can drive the band without taking the spotlight. [b]Abe Laboriel[/b] - Plays with spirit feeling and joy of his instrument. Stuart Zender [b]- [/b]back in the day [b]Jimmy Haslip - [/b]Just bl00dy amazing There are so many more I could add also including like Colin Greenwood .oops that's 6

[quote name='jackers' timestamp='1323952510' post='1469044'] wow, after reading this I feel genuinely privileged to have not been in bands with anyone who has come out with this utter rubbish The worst I've ever had is a drummer explaining why he didn't learn a cover: "well, I don't really like that band anyway, so I didn't bother." [/quote] i'm glad to say i currently don't deal with that any more, and I won't unless I'm getting paid.. but you gotta admit, if they didn't have at some point we would have this funny thread or stories to tell at the pub and elsewhere :-)

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1323869739' post='1467992'] One band member would often say "I'll play it right at the gig". Glad you're confident because I'm not. This band member also told me she didn't practice at all outside of band rehearsals. She's also the one who eventually called me a 'bully' and said "I'm not going to be made to feel bad for making a mistake - everybody makes mistakes", to which I replied "Not everybody makes the same mistakes for a year". Shortly before I left the band. [/quote]

wow this tread has gone on a long time.. The OP has been answered, but I do feel now people are trying to convince people other to bring a spare or not bring a spare bass and TBH we're all stubborn enough to do what we want. I know I am

[quote name='Norris' timestamp='1323695939' post='1465875'][list] [*][sub]Guitarist that didn't play a note throughout, but stood there staring in awe of the rest of the band[/sub] [/list] [/quote] I remember depping on a gig with a keyboard player. We both learnt the songs and had charts in case. The singer didn't like the keys player and she got a lot of unnecessary flack when things 'didn't sound right'. After we rehearsed a few songs we worked out that it was her friend would played rhythm guitars badly and at points both guitarists would stop playing during the 'tricky parts' of the song leaving us (bass and keys) to play with the drummer and singer and the singer HAD NO IDEA!!... It got me thinking, as this was a function band, should be all be paid the same?? the sad thing was the two guitarists were really nice, but not up to par

I think the key is the always be prepared and positive. It's about your reputation not theirs.. I've had a similar thing. I didn't join the band as it was very unorganised, I made my excuses to decline and afterwards the band member who turned up offered me another gig, because I had a positive attitude during my audition and played very well. The lesson here is you really don't know where you next gig will come from

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1323463499' post='1463768'] And if the PA breaks down? [/quote] You play acoustic or go home... You can't carry a spare PA.. this is insane!! On big functions I've sometime taken a spare mini mixer if the big mixer fails so you could put vocs through and maybe keys, but we use active speakers.. The only way you would have no sound is if both active monitors broke, the mixer (twice) and every ones amps... and to be honest if that happened, I would go home.. If you're playing at someones wedding (proper fee) the client needs to know you have made reasonable measures to deal with gear failure, but you can't bring a complete second rig.. unless yo have money to burn.. on an orginals front.. I'd check my gear before the gig etc carry extras leads and strings / sansamp and that's it... not even an extra bass, unless it's for a different sound.. If you have a bass that you have problems with..GET ANOTHER BASS, then you won't have to.. If you break strings on your bass, you need to look at your play unless your string are 100 years old

[quote name='punkypuncher' timestamp='1323685811' post='1465659'] The orange amp is going to tech support at Orange today,most helpfull too. If there's a fault,full replacement. Well i can't ask for anymore than thayt really. [/quote] Sounds good.. I've never had any problems with my Terror bass.. I use it alot, bought secind hand off here and it's been fine for the last 18months.. Nice support form orange Do we all know the bass amp is called the Terror bass and the Tiny terrors are actually the guitar amps, not the bass ones

[quote name='TraceElliotBass' timestamp='1323449535' post='1463595'] Thanks for the replies, I have sent Barefaced a question on their website so hopefully will get a reply. Since seeing the super twelve I can see me using that and fitting in nicely, but once I see something I like my brain goes, must have NOW! I would love to just have a room full of cabs that's the dream.... [/quote] Give them a ring.. you can bash out ideas with them much better that way.. I know what you mean about the NOW factor.. I'm the same..

[quote name='Paul S' timestamp='1323443634' post='1463498'] I would imagine, but do not know, that a BF Compact would be fine on its own without the TE 1x15. With my old TE rig I had the choice of a 1x15, 2x10 and also a 1x18 - I used to mix and match depending on my mood, the gig and/or the state of my lumbar region. So far I have bought and used only a BF Compact and it has done everything I could ask of it - this with a TC Classic 450 head, not a Trace head. If money were no object I would add a BF Midget for just a tiny touch more top end, more headroom or, really, just to have a bigger looking pile of kit on stage. But, if I am honest with myself, that's just the GAS speaking as the Compact on its own is more than adequate for anything I need. [/quote] I'd say if you have the money for the super 12, get that as you'll have alot of power and it's still very light and on wheels.. but if you could to with the extra funds get the compact see how that goes then get the midget, if you really really need it... with the 30 money back, you have time to upgrade to the super 12 or just wait... I'm still yet to hear someone not happy with BF.. I can't wait to order mine

I think you have missed one cab that would probably have more punch and that's the barefaced compact... also there isn't a blanket rule with cone sizes these days yes.. traditional 4x10 would normally have more punch, but these days its not always the case... speak to the guys at barefaced...[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1323438477' post='1463401'] Should do the job. I'd speak to Alex & see what cab would suit you best. He does a 30 day satisfaction. [/quote] +1 There's a christmas sale on too...

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1323433473' post='1463281'] If Im not being paid and 200 people have paid in, i'd be furious. I won't play free gigs unless its for a worthy cause or we have an arrangement. If I were to go back to playing originals, I would definitely take lead with the financial side of things and ask for a least all costs to be covered. I always go out with one bass now. Mainly for space needs, but if I start playing larger and larger more professional gigs, and I have better transport, Ill take two with me. [/quote] +1 this annoys me.. I do feel about 99% if they are paying a musician, that musician gets taken seriously and if they are not paid that don't give a $hit. The venues that make money and the bands who entertian get nothing??? no thanks. If it's an interesting project maybe.. I'd only take two bass if I want two different sounds really or if it's a well paid function miles away. I'm tempted to get a dual gig bag, but if i'm honest I generally use one bass on any particular gig.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1323365249' post='1462573'] When it comes to batteries you need to be a little bit carefull. There are a lot of fake 'Duracells' doing the rounds on the internet and at car boot fairs - often cheap grade manganese oxide batteries with a legitimate looking 'Duracell Alkaline' wrapper around them. Pound shop batteries are generally low grade alkalines at best and more usually the standard manganese oxide ones, don't be fooled by 'Extra Power', 'Long Life' and any other term that doesn't actually say 'Alkaline'. A particular favourite ploy is to use black and gold packaging to make you think 'Duracell'. If something is cheap then there's usually a good reason for it... Using a DVM to assess battery life isn't as an exact science as it would seem on the surface - you need to measure the voltage under load conditions. And just to make things even more interesting, different battery materials have different discharge characteristics. [/quote] all true.. I'm glad all my basses are now passive

[quote name='EdwardCunliffe' timestamp='1323348106' post='1462240'] And the more expensive models have an EQ bypass switch ... [/quote] I had had one of those.. which batteries do you use.. mine lasted ages..

[quote name='silddx' timestamp='1323191215' post='1460399'] [b]KIT RICHARDSON - Sat 10th Dec - Silver Bullet, Finsbury Park, London[/b] [url="http://www.thesilverbullet.co.uk/listings/?lgig=b47c8220-e99a-4051-8a3d-ddff834bb33c&performance=1"]http://www.thesilver...c&performance=1[/url] I think we are on about 8pm-ish Looks like a nice venue too, very close to Finsbury Park Station [url="http://www.thesilverbullet.co.uk/"]http://www.thesilverbullet.co.uk/[/url] Cheers, Nigel [/quote] Have a great gig.. I'm gigging in Henley that night.. I hope to see this band soon.. It's nice project Good luck Nige

[quote name='jim_bass' timestamp='1323333130' post='1462028'] Back to the original question, anyone used one of these? [url="http://www.artproaudio.com/products.asp?type=89&cat=15&id=139"]http://www.artproaud...9&cat=15&id=139[/url]. If you look at the manual (figure 5) it has a hookup diagram showing exactly what I was originally trying to do. I'm wondering if the direct outs (or in my case the insert loop (with a modified cable) comes before or after the channel gain or a mixing desk. Will they have a higher output than the subgoup outs? @leftybassman - keyboard player is definately the starting point. will see how we get on from there! I'm managed to pursuade him to get a nice set if in ear headphones, but he is now saying that he might not bother using them? We'll see how that one goes... [/quote] This is good option, if people will be using corded in-ears.. if you went wireless, there's no point really.. It takes a while to get used to in-ears also some just hate it.. some argue you lose the 'live sound'.. [quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1323340748' post='1462114'] The ART HA seems to do exactly the same as the Behringer, but costs about £120 more new. Worth it? MM [/quote] +1

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1323253788' post='1460997'] Tricky. A band that size with only 2 auxes free and limited radio capacity has to either bite the bullet and invest, or put up with a compromise setup of some sort - some options have already been mentioned above. If it helps, there are some things you can do (most of which you're probably doing already, but hey..):- 1. Bass players and drummers work as a team so they can share one feed, and with luck your acoustic guitarist will want this feed as well. 2. Electric guitarists are a bit of a law unto themselves I'm afraid (I know this 'cos I used to be one!), so let them choose which mix they want. 3. Singers need to hear other singers (as does everybody else BTW so make sure you give the Bass/Drum feed a decent vocal level), so optimise your main mix around that. However you do it you won't please everybody, so get something everybody can live with and try to leave it alone for the rest of the gig. (Once you start tinkering with it your life will get harder very quickly!) If you have plans to stay together a while you may want to consider having a simple onstage mixer setup for monitoring, and give someone (probably you yourself by the sound of it) the job of running it - it's a hassle but if a good monitor mix is important to you then sooner or later you're going to need to do it. Edit: headphones are the best solution for avoiding feedback, but (as mentioned above) other options are available, especially with an onstage mixer. [/quote] Yep all this.. the only other issue is if the keyboard player using their own amp DI'ed or do they just Di into the desk.. TBH.. I'd say you have two main choices 1. the band suck it up and realise you have to just deal with it... That's what most have done for years 2. get a bigger mixer with more aux at least 4 and work our who will either share inears mixes or monitors (speakers).. the downside of inears in that only one person will hear it. With a 8/9 piece, speakers that are share are much more practical, as you ear the on stage sound as well.. If you don't want carry the extra speakers, which band member can share the load..

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1323215634' post='1460802'] Actually I like that as a solution - not only has everybody got their own mix, but the setup gives each band member their own preferred format as well. Nice. Gets harder with more band members though, especially if lots of them want stage monitors to strut on. [/quote] I guess it the best of both for all.. I didn't of it like that.. But agreed it becomes more complex with more band members.. Some members can share both the guitarist and I like In-ears, but the bassist is not as keen.. we all sing and harmonize so I really need to hear everything... When I play bass on the gig.. I still go In-ear, just with a long cord.. I also do that with my duo band so we only need 2 active fronts (that can handle bass), my preamp and a mixer, which is quick for setting up... It also makes like easier when you plug into the the bars PA.. Another thing about our setup is we all paid for our own monitoring and feel comfortable with as this, it's what we usually use on other gigs.. so you could ask each member to pay for what they want.

massive Jap fan... much better sound for your buck any day of the week... or the old squires are lovely too

I'm in function band where we all have our own mix.. the mixer has for aux, so we're sorted as we're a 3 piece.. The singer gets 1 to his in-ear via wireless transmitter, I have 2 via my small mixer into my in-ear (i'm on drums so that's ok), the bassist has the 3 going into his mackie 350 monitor. You should ask yourself one question.. could you all really just get the FOH? Is getting all your own mix that important? I've had it for years I guess you could all get a small 2/3 or 4 channel mixer each to save on the money, but like leftybassman said it's costly

[quote name='grunge666' timestamp='1323133260' post='1459772'] I'm about to put my SVT 410 HLF Classic in the For Sale section. I love it but, it's killing me to take it to rehearsals twice a week. Gigs though, man it's awesome! I run it through a Sansamp RBI & an SVT 3 Pro. I'm looking to downsize and use the rehearsal rooms' ashdown cab for now. and look at a Neo later on. PM me if your interested at 1st dibs!? [/quote] change that for a Barefaced super twelve or two compacts and you'll be very happy.. also there's a sale on the compacts