stingrayPete1977

[quote name='Mottlefeeder' timestamp='1468003467' post='3088043'] Lots of interesting comments, and just a little bit of negativity towards guitarists. Just to recap, a guitarist turns up at an open mic night with the words and chords he/she needs, and an indication of where the capo goes to get the song in the right vocal range. A bass player introduces himself and asks if he can join in. There is no way that the guitarist's notes for his/her benefit are wrong just because they do not help the bass player. Moving on, a couple of posts suggest mentally converting a song into Nashville notation, and then moving the playing pattern further up the neck. That's fine up to a point, but only if the chord progression makes it obvious what the key is. For example, one of the songs that I play has the chord sequence Verse: Dm /A7 /Dm /A7 /D7 /Gm /Dm /A7 /Dm /C7 / Chorus: F /C7 /F /F7 /Bb /Gm /F /C7 /F /A7 / If I was presented with that and I did not know the song at all, I would use 1 'If it starts and ends with the same chord, that is probably the 1 chord' (so check it out) 2 'If it has three major chords in it, they will probably be I, IV and V (so check it out) 3 'If it has minor chords they will probably be II, III and VI (so check it out) 4 Oh sh#t this is going to sound awful. Firsty, 1, 2 and 3 do not work on that song, so what key is it in, and secondly, what rules do you use to determine which chords are foreign to the key, and what the I chord is? David [/quote] I would just blag the chord chart on a gig if I had that cheat sheet to hand, roots are always there, fifths for flavour chuck the minors and 7s in on the fly, if all else fails take all the treble off and play with my thumb, sorted

[quote name='luckydog' timestamp='1468001543' post='3088025'] Yup, that's another way to fly ! LD [/quote] I am actually just doing this now, been sent a homemade chart for a Fleetwood Mac number than was sounding off at practice, the record is in A maj, he says he uses a capo so he has sent it me in G? we do not do it in G, he must be playing off the capo as the nut, no problem now as I have read his chord chart without looking at the neck pretending my A is a G so we can do it in any key now.

I play almost everything as fretted notes on a five string, if it gets moved 2 or 3 frets it's no biggie.

Everything I own is speakon these days, I've made some short speakon to phonos just in case I come across a pesky Ashdown or similar in a practice room so I can use my head with that cab or that head with my cabs if my head should fail mid gig and a kind offer of an Ashdown head was taken up. I'm amazed putting the speaker input into the input of an active speaker (both sides of the stage!) didn't kill them, I was going to say maybe they have an idiot proof protection circuit built in but that would be rude to the OP,

What sort of wattage is an xlr designed to take? I've just sold a pair of Mackie c300s they didn't have xlrs, two speakon and two phonos on each all in parallel.

Yes I've never seen xlr on a passive speaker more likely a phono, sounds like you were sending the amplified signal to the line in on the active subs? Imagine taking your speaker lead and instead of putting it in your bass cab sticking it into the guitarist's amp input! Same difference really. I wonder if the passive tops have sub out connections? Designed for passive subs rather than active.

Was it TimR? Apologies if not.

Until people grasp the idea that the carefully honed sound they created in the practice room may or may not sound rubbish as the front of house sound regardless of how good or expensive the equipment is or how well you know the kit this argument will continue forever, my bass amp is a couple of grands worth but the sound from my pa with a clean di is better than it as the front of house, it also sits in the mix easier, throwing £350 worth of post eq head at what is sometimes thousands of pounds worth of PA is quite odd really. If your backline is your front of house that's a different story.

We play every song in C major and just fumble about in time to the drummer,No need for dots or anything then.

I hate myself for wasting money on these disappointing or toy town basses, if only I'd put an order in and waited two years for a custom bass because no one ever sells those on a few months later for a fraction of the purchase price do they? Junk, lol.

I can't even which member here said they would walk out before hearing the band if there was stands on stage?

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1467919126' post='3087363'] The most replaceable bass player in music [/quote] You'd think wouldn't you but there is some kind of unteachable element to rock music, it's why bands like cold play and maroon Five, snow patrol etc all suck.

I've got a mate who keeps ringing me, he's a great singer but he wants to do some weird blues prog stuff with various revolving members except me, it will take months of practice and the gigs would be non paying,I'm being as polite as possible but he keeps coming back! As soon as I hear "more of a sociable thing really" I'm generally busy or washing my hair!

[quote name='zero9' timestamp='1467896257' post='3087122'] Nice Stingrays Pete, hope that music stand isn't used at gigs though... [/quote] Oh no never, can you imagine the shame, toy town bass and no audience after they all walked out at the sight of it?

I've burnt way more than just that one, best part of £7000 including the toy town EBMM ones and the John east pre amp not including the acoustic bass I hardly use! Lol Can't take it with you mate. [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141102_103353_zpsagwfsjcd.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141102_103353_zpsagwfsjcd.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Ta, it's my 'suits any gig' bass, most people don't even notice it has a B string with it's retro looks!

I'm crazy too, who'd want a well finished 2013 jazz 5 with perfect frets, nice hardware, graphite neck reinforcement rods, rolled board edges,light weight tuners, nice dark finger board, super thin urethane finish and lighter than almost every P bass I've ever played? [URL=http://s997.photobucket.com/user/stingraypete/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141101_171416_zpsprg4tqe4.jpg.html][IMG]http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/af100/stingraypete/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/20141101_171416_zpsprg4tqe4.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Flash has spoilt the picture, it's more brown in the flesh,tort looks better and the rose wood is darker.

How can you sight read tab? All you are doing is playing along to a backing track quickly be it recorded music or a live band, If the whole band had never heard the song before and they all had tab they wouldn't have a clue where to begin! Sight reading to me would mean giving a piece of music to two people who have never heard the piece before and both giving a very similar rendition from it, it's a useful tool but useless without the track playing in your head or along with another player that either knows the song or is actually sight reading from notation. Anyway surely it should be tab' then?

[quote name='thebassist' timestamp='1467816867' post='3086506'] Ooooooohhhhhh - how did the fitting go? Photos handy? [/quote] I will get some soon as I need to open it up as it has a leak draining the battery somewhere, its VERY tight in the standard cavity and I've hidden the battery in a hole I've created behind the pickguard so that has to come off for battery changes which should be once a year hopefully once the drain is sorted, would look stock if I put the standard circuit back in basically but I think I'll always want a Jazz with 5 strings thats active so purchase price and resale are non starters for me. It's got volume (+passive active push/pull),pickup pan and treble/bass stacked with genuine Fender knobs I imported. Edit-its a Bartolini not Aguilar, I forget that I changed my mind at the last moment, sounds epic!

I'm not really sure what people want, in all honesty I could use my cheapest bass for the rest of my life (2007 SR5) it's a great bass if a little shabby in places but there are plenty of players using them that I'll never be able to play as well as. Don't get me wrong I'm not too shabby a player really and I need a solid dependable bass but I struggle to see what anything over about an £800 new bass does that would make it more playable really, I say this as a classic 5 Stingray owner with a new cost over £2k plus a John east circuit I fitted and a 2010 Stingray 5 and a 2013 Fender us jazz five with an aguilar preamp I fitted, they are all nice basses but I don't own them because I feel that I need them or it would hinder me to play a lesser model.

Lauren Taneil is actually in the UK right now, she could chop in those toy town Ray 5s while she is here for a UK custom built bass to save her struggling for the rest of the Beyonce world tour! Lol.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1467756464' post='3086042'] All basses should have the ebmm wheel of fortune by law, thankfully my USA Jazz has one. [/quote] I'm retracting this, it hasn't its an Allen key! I'm confusing it with my OLP guitar hanging next to it,maybe it's an age thing.

All basses should have the ebmm wheel of fortune by law, thankfully my USA Jazz has one.

Most people could recognise jaws from the note and note length of the first note, I'll name it in one!

Everyone is having their tone messed with Lozz, even mic'd up the drummer's snare will sound different once it's in the pa, a gated kick sounds ace out the front so if our drummer demanded we amplified the whole tonal range/duration of his acoustic kick it would ruin the foh sound to give him what he has spent ages perfecting. As ever same as the other thread, yes if you are Duff and you have your own crew on hand go for it fx and all, three heads, ab pedals the lot, multi band line up sound guy you've never met then clean di and tell him/her that you have some tricky business going on that's important to the overall sound and ask nicely for a mic on your cab mixed in. I've come back from practice earlier, three hours of 60s stuff, 70s, disco, punk, rock, indie, rock and roll , rockabilly(esque) etc etc, Stingray and an upright never touched my amp after the initial setup, a good di would have done me proud on a gig.