eude Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='881654' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:00 AM']I've also been chatting with 'GeoffByrne' about this very same combo too. It would appear that it's now getting a lot more attention which it rightly deserves.[/quote] I think a lot of folks might have had a bit of brand snobbery to start off with, Ibanez make cracking guitars and basses, however they do predominantly appeal to metalers. Ibanez's previous experience of amps has been pretty small and budget so I guess they've found it hard to shake off that stigma when lauching their "pro level" kit. I have to say, I have been pretty cautious too, I had my eye on this stuff as soon as the first press release came out, but I made sure to hold back and read up on the reliability etc. before making my purchase, which I do so with every confidence now Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881658' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:05 AM']Ta for the info, Derren. Quick question - I know this is probably pushing the laws of physics given the combo's size, but how do you think the combo alone would cope with a fairly low-volume band rehearsal, or an acoustic-ish open mic night with a quiet drummer?[/quote] I've played a load of gigs like that, including ones with the drummer mic'd up and through a small PA with the Vocals and Guitars. I used to use an Aguilar GS112 and LittleMark 250 (150W at 8 Ohms) and never got the volume past 9 o'clock, so I'm absolutely positive the little Promethean will hold it's own in a similar set up. I'll be able to give you some real world feedback on this soon, got an acoustic gig in a festival in August where I'll be using this little bad boy. Might have something sooner than that too, but I'll keep y'all posted Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 I should add, the above was for crowds of up to about 100 folks too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881658' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:05 AM']Ta for the info, Derren. Quick question - I know this is probably pushing the laws of physics given the combo's size, but how do you think the combo alone would cope with a fairly low-volume band rehearsal, or an acoustic-ish open mic night with a quiet drummer?[/quote] Easily in my experience. Obviously if the amp is driven it will distort, but I can happily push the volume to half way (even more) and be very loud and not distort - more than enough for a small rehearsal and even a pub gig. Add an extension speaker and the presence is significantly better obviously. There are some audio recordings of me using the Promethean with a Trace Elliot BLX80 extension speaker. It was recorded on a Zoom H2 sat in a corner of small pub room. It's worth noting that we have a drummer who uses an eKit which dramatically changes the onstage dynamics. The room was also a bit boomy, so it sounded fine on stage but projected out as such! Opps! But at no point in the gig was the amp driven or distorted, if that makes sense? The bass used is a Tanglewood semi acoustic short scale. Also, my band isn't a very loud band, gone are those days for me Some of the audio is here (I've just uploaded this audio so it might take a second or two for the waveform to refresh, so just bare with it): [url="http://soundcloud.com/fourfingerfunk/dealing-with-the-devil"]http://soundcloud.com/fourfingerfunk/dealing-with-the-devil[/url] (a swing blues number) [url="http://soundcloud.com/fourfingerfunk/born-under-a-bad-sign"]http://soundcloud.com/fourfingerfunk/born-under-a-bad-sign[/url] (a rocky blues number) If you really want too, you can see the videos of these songs as well, but the sound through the video mic is distorted to buggery! I play like a dork [url="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1515479491571"]http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1515479491571[/url] [url="http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1515545773228"]http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1515545773228[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='eude' post='881665' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:12 AM']I think a lot of folks might have had a bit of brand snobbery to start off with, Ibanez make cracking guitars and basses, however they do predominantly appeal to metalers. Ibanez's previous experience of amps has been pretty small and budget so I guess they've found it hard to shake off that stigma when lauching their "pro level" kit. I have to say, I have been pretty cautious too, I had my eye on this stuff as soon as the first press release came out, but I made sure to hold back and read up on the reliability etc. before making my purchase, which I do so with every confidence now Eude[/quote] This was exactly my experience. Oddly enough I didn't have that stigma and judged it on my requirements and needs, so bought accordingly. I think I was one of the very first to get the Promethean on this forum and a lot of people did slag it off at the time! How things change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Cheers, Derren I have a Berg HS210 and a TC RH450 which is great for small gigs where I need a bit of poke. I just need something which is a one-hand carry for the open-mics and rehearsals when I'm feeling lazy. Just wondering how it would cope on its' lonesome... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Nice clips, by the way. Sounds like a fun band... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881707' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:47 AM']I just need something which is a one-hand carry for the open-mics and rehearsals when I'm feeling lazy.[/quote] You might be interested in trying my TC Electronic RS112. Just means you have to sling your RH450 in a bag over your shoulder, but it's a much easier carry than the HS210 (only about 13 kg). Makes a lovely noise too. (It's time for a North-East bash, Michael! If you look at my porn thread -- link in sig -- Dave Anderson's offered the John Marley Centre as a potential venue...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='881722' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:59 AM']You might be interested in trying my TC Electronic RS112.[/quote] When did you get that? Ya sneaky devil... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881725' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:03 AM']When did you get that? Ya sneaky devil...[/quote] Just a few weeks back. :ph34r: I recently started playing with an acoustic singer-songwriter-type, and I guessed 500W into a super-sensitive 2x15 was overkill. Tried a Line6 Lowdown Studio 110 for a while (as an all-in-one, one-handed carry), but the tone wasn't quite there for me, so I decided to stick with the lovely LMII and run it into into a smaller cab. Got the RS112 with a little online discount from Sounds Live... and sheezabeaudy! Thick, meaty sound, even on the low B string, and it's the first cab I've had where the tweeter's had any use. It's only on about 20%, but it just adds that little extra sweetness up top without nasty sizzle. Dead chuffed with it, especially cos I've knacked my shoulder and I can't even lift the Vintage at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881711' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:50 AM']Nice clips, by the way. Sounds like a fun band...[/quote] Cheers, it's great when we play right, sorry, when I play right The drummer has just got an acoustic kit as of yesterday, so that should make things interesting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 Aww.. get well soon. I did think of getting a smaller cab like the RS112 or a Berg AE12, but I've been looking at replacing the Walkabout Scout with either a Markbass CMD112 or a Prometheaneneannean because they're small, light, and if - God forbid - anything happens to my RH450, it means I have a combo (or a standalone head in the Prometheaneneannean's case) that'll drive a couple of cabs. Also, the Prometheaneneannean will take an iPod in. Handy for rehearsals, innit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881744' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:21 AM']Also, the Prometheaneneannean will take an iPod in. Handy for rehearsals, innit![/quote] Plus it has a headphone out - handy for keeping the other half happy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881744' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:21 AM']Aww.. get well soon.[/quote] Cheers, I'd love to. Shoulder impingement could mean I'm in it for a reasonably long haul though. Flared it up again last night by closing the curtains. Yes, closing the curtains. [quote name='eude' post='881745' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:24 AM']Plus it has a headphone out - handy for keeping the other half happy too [/quote] I almost always run through my pedalboard, and the EBS MicroBassII on there has a headphone out (and you can run audio in through the FX loop), so Mrs Endian's happy without me even firing up an amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted June 30, 2010 Author Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='BottomEndian' post='881757' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:36 AM']I almost always run through my pedalboard, and the EBS MicroBassII on there has a headphone out (and you can run audio in through the FX loop), so Mrs Endian's happy without me even firing up an amp. [/quote] Ah, you obviously have a plethora of gear then I don't have a whole lot, so getting an "all in one" will be most useful and take up less room too, again pleasing the other half... I love the look of the little TC Electronics 12" cab, in different circumstances I might have gone for something like that and kept my LittleMark250, but unfortunately, circumstances have dictated that I really need to downsize as much as possible while still having something usable for real gigs... Hope the shoulder gets better soon mate! Cheers, Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottomEndian Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 [quote name='eude' post='881774' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:48 AM']Ah, you obviously have a plethora of gear then [/quote] It's all pedals! I should have pointed out that the MicroBass lives on my "small" pedalboard (tuner, compressor, noise gate, chorus, MicroBass). The "big" board's just fuzz, fuzz, drive, fuzz, distortion, fuzz, fuzz... [quote name='eude' post='881774' date='Jun 30 2010, 11:48 AM']Hope the shoulder gets better soon mate![/quote] Cheers. Maybe I should start a "My shoulder hurts" thread for maximum BC sympathy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 This combo seems to tick MANY boxes. As I am an idiot I dont associate Ibanez with good quality bass amps, but this might change everything. I notice the Bass Merchant are now stocking these, and will no doubt do a great price if you enquire. Even im tempted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted June 30, 2010 Share Posted June 30, 2010 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' post='881658' date='Jun 30 2010, 10:05 AM']Ta for the info, Derren. Quick question - I know this is probably pushing the laws of physics given the combo's size, but how do you think the combo alone would cope with a fairly low-volume band rehearsal, or an acoustic-ish open mic night with a quiet drummer?[/quote] If it throws out the sound like my combo I shouldn't worry about the size. I have used my Markbass combo at reasonably sized gigs (when I had to go straight from work) and it was fine - and plenty loud enough with the volume just over halfway - and our drummer is not quiet by any stretch of the imagination. I found it best around two feet away from a rear wall to get the best from the rear firing port and the only thing I missed was a lack of definition when compared to my usual pair of Bergantino 12 inch cabs. Edited July 1, 2010 by alanbass1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 It's here No sign of the man bag or leather strap I ordered with it, but I'm very very excited... Will post thoughts as they occur to me, once I get it home. Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 My breath is baited... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 OK First impressions! This thing is small, very very small! Deceptively heavy but still very light considering everything that's in the box The tone of the amp is great flat, pretty neutral, not quite the same as running my old LittleMark250 and Aguilar GS112 flat, bit less weight, but the thing is about half the size, so that is understandable! The EQ section of the amp is pretty straightforward, gain, mute button - switchable remotely, bass and treble controls, with a graphic EQ section for tweaking, which is also switchable remotely, vibe control, which i'll cover in a minute, and volume. The vibe control is a bit like a mix of the VLF and VLE filters on the MarkBass gear, all the way left emulates an old school amp i.e. less treble - more thump, all the way to the right, more bass - mid cut - and added sizzle. This feature is also switchable remotely too. Just a note, you can buy a foot switch to control all these "switchable" functions, not necessary for me the now, but I'll consider it for later on. The headphone out sounds very very nice and gave me the opportunity to rediscover the flexibility of the pre in my ACG, lots of fun without annoying my noisy idiot neighbours, think I'll do most of my noodling at volume tomorrow, that'll learn them I've not had a chance to test this at war volume, but it can kick out a fair bit of weight, especially if you dial in some bass! I should get in a band practice either this week or next. So far, I'm a very happy Eude More to follow soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Any further thoughts fella? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eude Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='890810' date='Jul 9 2010, 09:02 PM']Any further thoughts fella?[/quote] Hey Derren, not had much time to play unfortunately Down at my folks this weekend so I popped it in the bag and popped it in the boot of the car. Fitted perfectly, nice and easy to shift too. Wouldn't want to carry it for a few miles, but a lot more manageable than the last set up, which I managed about a mile on foot with, along with my bass on my back too. Still real chuffed, hoping to give it a blast at my folks, as they have a detached house vs my 1st floor flat, should manage a bit more volume. Hopefully I'll get to whip it out at a band practice next week though! Eude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjones Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 (edited) I was planning to buy a Promethean because I wanted a lightweight, quality, flexible amp/combo and , of course, because it was the sensible thing to do. Instead I went and bought this [attachment=53848:Bassman.jpg] A combo the size and weight of a small tweed planet. Which is neither lightweight or flexible. Although to give it it's due it does sound great but I wish it had come with a forklift truck to carry it around with. Carrying it up 3 flights of stairs to my flat after every gig is something I could do without. 250 watts through a 10 inch speaker? I'm looking forward to your review with interest. Edited July 9, 2010 by gjones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ickleben Posted July 13, 2010 Share Posted July 13, 2010 I'm also very tempted by the prometheananan but stuck between the 1*10 or the 2*10 combo... My band wont be gigging till september so I've got plenty of time to make up my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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