nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 If in near future a digital bass would be made, how it should work, from Your point of view ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Steve Chick made the first really functional split-fret bass in the 80's (it wasn't the first in the world, but first functional and mass-produced). Industrial Radio is his company at the moment. This is a different take: https://misadigital.com/products/tri-bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 minute ago, itu said: Steve Chick made the first really functional split-fret bass in the 80's (it wasn't the first in the world, but first functional and mass-produced). Industrial Radio is his company at the moment. This is a different take: https://misadigital.com/products/tri-bass I just looked at it, but that is not what i really thought about. I think more a bass that is still played with real or somehow digitalized strings (to not loose a feel of playing it) and digital pickup witch is controlled with a chip witch can create any bass guitar sound You like. Only for different brands left is design, color and the control type of the whole instrument together. Finally - You must learn to play the bass as You do it in these days to play it better and better..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, itu said: Steve Chick made the first really functional split-fret bass in the 80's (it wasn't the first in the world, but first functional and mass-produced). Industrial Radio is his company at the moment. This is a different take: https://misadigital.com/products/tri-bass Is that the one Chris Wolstenholme plays on Madness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Line 6 Variax MIDI bass..? Or any MIDI-controller, nowadays. I sometimes use a Sonuus MIDI interface to play basson or cello lines on my bass. Is that not digital enough..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Line 6 Variax MIDI bass..? Or any MIDI-controller, nowadays. I sometimes use a Sonuus MIDI interface to play basson or cello lines on my bass. Is that not digital enough..? I think that midi is MIDI. I think a lot of players would be disapointed that their teqnique master class would not count so much anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Lightwave basses are probably the closest as they don't need magnetic strings, they use a light pickup system. But then again decades ago there was the Synth Axe so it's not a new idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekomatic Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Can I be first in with the ‘I have a digital bass… I play it with my fingers’ gag? But yes, I remember seeing someone with a MIDI-capable bass thirty years ago. Can’t remember what make it was but I think it was an early model this guy was helping the manufacturer to develop. It had each fret split into a different section for each string in order to detect by electrical contact which notes were being fretted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 My digital bass is a keyboard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwilym Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Root = 0 5th = 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, nekomatic said: Can I be first in with the ‘I have a digital bass… I play it with my fingers’ gag? But yes, I remember seeing someone with a MIDI-capable bass thirty years ago. Can’t remember what make it was but I think it was an early model this guy was helping the manufacturer to develop. It had each fret split into a different section for each string in order to detect by electrical contact which notes were being fretted. I remember that too. The 4 part frets were used as buttons underneath to help lower latency. It was quite an interesting idea but I'm not surprised it didn't work very well. I think these days more people play multiple instruments, so a bassist probably won't buy a digital bass, they'll get a hardware synth or a keyboard midi controller and some plugins for any sound that isn't like a bass guitar. The home recording revolution had definitely led to more multi-instrumentalists, helped by even modest instruments being so damn good now. I still remember my first set up. A Yamaha MT50 4 track tape machine, a Zoom 234 drum machine, my guitar and the Korg Pandora Mk1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gwilym said: Root = 0 5th = 1 Cheers, for your root=0 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDaddy Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Something like this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 10 minutes ago, MacDaddy said: Something like this Let's ask Mccartney what he thinks about this ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, asingardenof said: Is that the one Chris Wolstenholme plays on Madness? CW was using Misa's Kitara, TriBass came a bit later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tauzero Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I actually have one of these sitting behind me as I type: The Variax bass isn't MIDI. The Sonuus B2M isn't that great. I'm just about to fit a Roland GK-3B onto a 6-string bass but I won't be using it for MIDI, just for processing through a GR-55. The Industrial Radio MIDI basses are probably the best bet - there have been other split fret switching instruments too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 4 hours ago, nilorius said: If in near future a digital bass would be made, how it should work, from Your point of view ? A digital bass is 100% software using AI to generate playing and effects in any and every playing style to accompany the rest of the track. no analogue humans or physical things need exist - 100% digital, and before you ask, yes it would be good for metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 37 minutes ago, LukeFRC said: A digital bass is 100% software using AI to generate playing and effects in any and every playing style to accompany the rest of the track. no analogue humans or physical things need exist - 100% digital, and before you ask, yes it would be good for metal like the EZBass plug in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itu Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1964 Bob Murrell develops Guitorgan with split frets and it's polyphonic 1966 Vox V251 i.e. Guitar Organ, the unreliable guitar synth after Guitorgan At the end of 1960's Ovation develops piezo pickup to their acoustic instruments (piezo will be important in coming MIDI controllers) 1969 Ron Hoag presents optical (IR) pickup at NAMM 1976 EBow; Ampeg and Hagström create Patch 2000 1977 Roland produces their first g-word synth GR-500 (Greco Roland) and bass synth F (= Fuji) Roland 1981 MIDI is standardized 1984 carbon fibre Bond Electraglide is built with fully digital controls, although the pickups are traditional 1985 Steve Chick (Industrial Radio) uses split fret neck (remember the Guitorgan 1964; Wal, Peavey MidiBase and CyberBass) 1986 SynthAxe 1987 Casio 510 1990's Sustainiac (kind of built-in EBow) 2002 Line6 Variax Lightwave Systems optical pickups Misa Kitara and Tri-Bass What's next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilorius Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 26 minutes ago, itu said: 1964 Bob Murrell develops Guitorgan with split frets and it's polyphonic 1966 Vox V251 i.e. Guitar Organ, the unreliable guitar synth after Guitorgan At the end of 1960's Ovation develops piezo pickup to their acoustic instruments (piezo will be important in coming MIDI controllers) 1969 Ron Hoag presents optical (IR) pickup at NAMM 1976 EBow; Ampeg and Hagström create Patch 2000 1977 Roland produces their first g-word synth GR-500 (Greco Roland) and bass synth F (= Fuji) Roland 1981 MIDI is standardized 1984 carbon fibre Bond Electraglide is built with fully digital controls, although the pickups are traditional 1985 Steve Chick (Industrial Radio) uses split fret neck (remember the Guitorgan 1964; Wal, Peavey MidiBase and CyberBass) 1986 SynthAxe 1987 Casio 510 1990's Sustainiac (kind of built-in EBow) 2002 Line6 Variax Lightwave Systems optical pickups Misa Kitara and Tri-Bass What's next? terminator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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