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EUB advice needed please!

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Hi Guys

 

I'm toying with the idea of picking up an EUB. I've had an acoustic 3/4 double bass for around 2 years and I love playing it, but lately I've been thinking of looking into an EUB. I've never played one, so I'm very much a newbie and thought I'd ask this awseome community for a little advice! 

My band have recently moved into the wedding market, and as such we are offering an acoustic afternoon set in addition to the main evening show. Transport and portability of my existing bass are obviously issues. I also feel that it'll be easier to control the sound of an electric instrument, hence my interest in a EUB. 

I'm planning on running it through my Line 6 Helix then directly into the PA.

So my questions are, what models should I focus on? What models should I avoid? Are there any other considerations I haven't included here? Any other advice/words of wisdom?

 

And lastly, if you have one you're looking to shift, drop me an inbox! :) 

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help! 

 

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16 minutes ago, chrisd783 said:

Transport and portability of my existing bass are obviously issues.

You say "obviously" - but from what you've said, no, it's not obvious what the issues are.  What are they?

Transporting and controlling the sound are perhaps not the easiest tasks - but not showstoppers either.

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On 17/05/2021 at 16:05, chrisd783 said:

Hi Guys

 

I'm toying with the idea of picking up an EUB. I've had an acoustic 3/4 double bass for around 2 years and I love playing it, but lately I've been thinking of looking into an EUB. I've never played one, so I'm very much a newbie and thought I'd ask this awseome community for a little advice! 

My band have recently moved into the wedding market, and as such we are offering an acoustic afternoon set in addition to the main evening show. Transport and portability of my existing bass are obviously issues. I also feel that it'll be easier to control the sound of an electric instrument, hence my interest in a EUB. 

I'm planning on running it through my Line 6 Helix then directly into the PA.

So my questions are, what models should I focus on? What models should I avoid? Are there any other considerations I haven't included here? Any other advice/words of wisdom?

 

And lastly, if you have one you're looking to shift, drop me an inbox! :) 

 

Thanks in advance for any and all help! 

 

Hi Chris 

I play in a jazz quintet and play an EUB. It’s great, in my and the rest of the bands opinions. Previously I played a bass guitar but they prefer this. 
 

If you have any questions please fire away. 
 

cheers 

Jimmy 

 

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I went from EB to a Stagg EUB and then upgraded to a Yamaha SLB200. At most gigs I use my DB but for rehearsals and gigs with very tight quarters I use the Yamaha and it does the job well. I play jazz standards in a quartet and septet and the bands like the EUB and although it doesn't sound exactly like a DB the audience doesn't hear much difference and I get a lot of "what is that thing?" questions. I use a Stagg stand to hold it between sets, secure and easy to use. 

It is certainly easier to transport than my DB and in most cases I run it direct into our Bose PA and can EQ with the SLB's built in preamp and the Bose. Works for me. 

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FWIW, I started learning "proper" upright technique on a Warwick Triumph (the cheaper Rockbass version) and found that it was extremely easy to transition to an acoustic after. It's an Eb neck, but so is my acoustic.
I had it modified by a luthier with DB tuners instead of the BG ones it came with, so I could put DB strings on it.
When it's packed up in its gig bag it's not much more bulky than a bass guitar. If you are over 6' tall you might find the end pin too short, but I solved this by slipping a length of copper pipe over it and putting a walking stick rubber ferrule on the end.

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Everyone has their likes and preferences.  Ii walked into my local PMT one day and they had an Ibanez EUB840 plugged in for demonstration.  I spent no more than five minutes playing this and knew I had to get one, previously I’d been perfectly happy with my Rickenbacker Bass with Thomastik flats.

The Ibanez has its own stand and with the aero silk piezo pickups sounds pretty authentic to my colleagues’ ears.  It can be played arco if you want  as well.   Also, and most importantly for me, it’s not expensive.

The Rick rarely gets played now. 

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This seems to be the endless circle for semi pro ( and possibly some pro) players ................. how to achieve acoustic bass tonality at reasonable volume, particularly if you have to generate your own amplified sound via your backline as opposed to DI ing straight into a large and quality pa system.

My lovely acoustic bass is resting up now and I'm itching to gig the Yamaha SLB300 to see if live tone nirvana is closer than ever before. From the playing feel there is no significant difference between both - perhaps slightly less tension on the yamaha ( which may well be just a string thing) and action can be adjusted lower as acoustic volume is not at issue. You are definitely playing a double bass, not a hybrid.

Going through an acoustic image amp and speakers and the sound quality at home practice volumes seems more acoustic bass then fretless bass. The acid test is to come as soon as we are allowed out to play !

Of course the rest of the band will almost inevitably prefer the appearance of an acoustic bass on stage, little appreciating the horror show of volume verses feedback verses tonality let alone the joy of transporting your precious acoustic around tight, awkward spaces and being allocated enough room on stage to leave it unattended in safety!

I always smile when I see Mr Swift on stage with the Jools Band - fielding yet another gorgeous bass instrument from what must be an enormous collection of electrics, EUB's, fretless electrics and acoustics. Said player may be an addict collector or still searching for that one bass which will be IT. I suspect the later but I'm probably somewhat jealous as well.

Let the search continue and "bonne chance"

 

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I'm relatively new to EUB, but I went for the NS Wav5. It's only a piezo pickup so output is pretty low if I record straight into my interface, but through the Helix it's fine, and straight into my Markbass Combo, with the instrument's tone rolled off it sounds great.

3 Sigma sell IRs based on some acoustic basses, there are samples of each on the website. I bought the 'Berlinner' one (an 1894 Lowendall IIRC), and it sounds really good my ears.

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