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That's my point, perhaps that's just the new price now, and the black and teal are cheaper because they're old stock.

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I noticed last night as i was playing my BB425 that ive strung it through body, which is what i normally do. It struck me that i wasn't taking advantage of the extended B part of the bridge.

Just wondered if anyone had compared the two methods of stringing the B string and if there is an advantage to stringing through bridge.

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On 06/03/2020 at 10:08, MoJo said:

I've not tried the BB434, but the BB414 and BB424 don't quite nail that Precision tone for me. I imagine that with it's regular sized pickups, with a set of Fender '62 pickups in it, a BB434 would sound very close

There's definitely some difference, the Alnico V pickups in the newer series have a much cosier, organic tone to them than the ceramic ones in the 41x/42x ranges. That said, they're still pretty hot! But by adjusting pickup height you could probably ease the output off a bit. 

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Saw Stereophonics last night and Richard Jones played pretty much every iteration of the new BB series throughout the set. 

Looked the dogs b******* in a big stage setting. 

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23 hours ago, TRBboy said:

There's definitely some difference, the Alnico V pickups in the newer series have a much cosier, organic tone to them than the ceramic ones in the 41x/42x ranges. That said, they're still pretty hot! But by adjusting pickup height you could probably ease the output off a bit. 

My BBP34 is actually slightly lower than my fender 60s in output with the same pickup height. They are not crazy high output compared to typical p basses.

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Ive just received my BB435. First impressions are very good. Fit and finish seem to be good (always a worry), and the weight is 9lbs.

I love the dark burst finish. I can see me using this much more than my P34. I guess Ill sell the 425 at some point.

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2 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

Ive just received my BB435. First impressions are very good. Fit and finish seem to be good (always a worry), and the weight is 9lbs.

I love the dark burst finish. I can see me using this much more than my P34. I guess Ill sell the 425 at some point.

Congrats! Get some pics of your Yammy herd done Mr Bass 5. 

9 lbs is a very good weight! 

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Ill sort something out over the weekend.

Has anyone changed the tuners on a 434/5 bass? I cant see anything wrong with the ones on mine, but id like to get something less shiny, and maybe a touch shorter.

They look like Hipshot HB7's but ill have a measure up when i get home.

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Have just picked up a second hand BB pro 34 in midnight blue and holy s**t... it is an absolute monster!

I have owned some incredible basses over the years from the likes of Nordstrand/Lull/Roscoe/Fender CS... this thing smokes them all!

I have never owned a Yamaha bass before... wish I had bought one years ago!

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12 minutes ago, IanA said:

Have just picked up a second hand BB pro 34 in midnight blue and holy s**t... it is an absolute monster!

I have owned some incredible basses over the years from the likes of Nordstrand/Lull/Roscoe/Fender CS... this thing smokes them all!

I have never owned a Yamaha bass before... wish I had bought one years ago!

Congrats - and welcome aboard the Yammy BB club! It can be a slippery (and often inverted) slope once you're on it, but you've started fairly near the top. Did you just pick up the one that was in the FS? 

Having had a P35, I know what you mean: they really are a great bass! What is it about the P34 that you're finding gives it the edge over that bass 'hall of fame' you've just listed?

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Ill have to sell my P34. Everyone seems to love them other than me, and I don’t know why i cant  bond with it. 

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1 minute ago, dave_bass5 said:

Ill have to sell my P34. Everyone seems to love them other than me, and I don’t know why i cant  bond with it. 

It’s not an orange 414

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6 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Congrats - and welcome aboard the Yammy BB club! It can be a slippery (and often inverted) slope once you're on it, but you've started fairly near the top. Did you just pick up the one that was in the FS? 

Having had a P35, I know what you mean: they really are a great bass! What is it about the P34 that you're finding gives it the edge over that bass 'hall of fame' you've just listed?

Hey, 

so yes I bought it from Alain (EAD) and I suspect that it won’t be the last one either...

In terms of what gives it the edge...

Every note pings off the fret board in a way that I have never heard before from a bass. Combined with a really low action that makes for a really expressive instrument with great dynamics. 


Apart from that, it balances really nicely on the strap, is nice and light, has a great neck profile and awesome fit and finish.

Sound wise it is like a Precision on steroids, big fat and juicy! Just how I like em😂

No more GAS this month now!

 

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13 minutes ago, AndyTravis said:

It’s not an orange 414

True. Ill get a respray and fall in love with it 😂

I am up to 3 BB’s now, and although i do love them all Ive just had a rocky relationship with it. It’s still my go to bass for anything 4 string, but i do (at least at the moment) prefer the tone of my new 435. It just that the 435 has that oversized thumb rest getting in the way.......

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Here’s something I learnt this week over on TB, and i wish i had known about this before, because I genuinely thought i had an issue with the truss rod in my P34 on a few occasions. The neck has never had an issue, but when i was setting it up i had a feeling the truss rod wasnt working 100%. Now i know it’s normal.

Not my post, just cut and pasted here for information. 

Just be aware that with a dual-action truss rod there is a "dead-zone" or "neutral zone" that a lot of articles fail to mention.

That's when the truss rod is set perfectly flat in it's middle position, meaning there is no bow happening in either direction. There will be a couple of 2-3 turns where you will feel no resistance from the truss rod before it finally starts to grab again, and start going in the direction you are asking it to.

The first time I experienced this I was concern my truss rod was busted, but it will eventually get traction after a couple of turns in your desired direction and start to do its thing.

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40 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

Here’s something I learnt this week over on TB, and i wish i had known about this before, because I genuinely thought i had an issue with the truss rod in my P34 on a few occasions. The neck has never had an issue, but when i was setting it up i had a feeling the truss rod wasnt working 100%. Now i know it’s normal.

Not my post, just cut and pasted here for information. 

Just be aware that with a dual-action truss rod there is a "dead-zone" or "neutral zone" that a lot of articles fail to mention.

That's when the truss rod is set perfectly flat in it's middle position, meaning there is no bow happening in either direction. There will be a couple of 2-3 turns where you will feel no resistance from the truss rod before it finally starts to grab again, and start going in the direction you are asking it to.

The first time I experienced this I was concern my truss rod was busted, but it will eventually get traction after a couple of turns in your desired direction and start to do its thing.

Thank you for sharing, that is very useful information for a BB newby

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8 minutes ago, IanA said:

Thank you for sharing, that is very useful information for a newby

No problem. Ive been setting my own basses up for years. Not an expert but i seem to get the job done. The P34 is the first bass ive owned with a dual action truss rod. I don’t think i even knew it had one, let alone had the above ‘feature’.

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Hey guys, I read this thread from time to time as I've always considered adding a BB to the armory at some point! Anyways I was watching a video on YouTube about the 3 bass players and their gear from 'The Bay Strikes Back' tour. (Testament, Exodus and Death Angel)

I came across the fact that Jack Gibson from Exodus praises his BB's and thought this may interest you guys. He has a custom one made from lucite - reminiscent of the Dan Armstrong basses.  

Saw the Glasgow leg of the tour last Sunday and have to say was blown away by the bass tone! If anything I want one even more now.

Sorry for the long list but thought someone may find it interesting. Link to video 

 

 

 

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Pulling you on to the Yammy thread if I may:

47 minutes ago, krispn said:

I think the Yamaha BB's have ceramic mags versus the AlNiCo in the 735 so the newer range with the AlNiCo pick ups would tend to sound more vintage. I recall a talking point from the older BB fans was that the new pick ups were more 'tame' (which could mean vintage, lower output, weaker etc.) while those who weren;t so keen on the older BB's felt that they were OTT and didn't sound like their Fenders. Go figure!  Having had some recent experience of ceramic mag pick ups in a p bass they're very up front and certainly have their place but defo not vintage by any stretch!

Fyi Yamaha certainly had the AlNiCo pups with their higher end 1024/5 and 2024/5 basses in 2010 when these were brought out; the more budget end of the range retained the ceramic pups. Not sure what the pups were in the previous top end basses (e.g. BB1200, 2000, 3000, 5000) - need @AndyTravis or another BC'er with greater Yammy history than me to jump in to confirm that.

The current series which came out in 2017 saw the the AlNiCos being extended to the whole range, with 'higher end' AlNiCos for the 734A/5A and P34/5 than the 434/5s and only the 234/5 still having ceramic.

My experience is that the ceramics are indeed higher output / more punchy but 'flatter', and the AlNiCos more harmonically rich, which I personally prefer.

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6 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Pulling you on to the Yammy thread if I may:

Fyi Yamaha certainly had the AlNiCo pups with their higher end 1024/5 and 2024/5 basses in 2010 when these were brought out; the more budget end of the range retained the ceramic pups. Not sure what the pups were in the previous top end basses (e.g. BB1200, 2000, 3000, 5000) - need @AndyTravis or another BC'er with greater Yammy history than me to jump in to confirm that.

The current series which came out in 2017 saw the the AlNiCos being extended to the whole range, with 'higher end' AlNiCos for the 734A/5A and P34/5 than the 434/5s and only the 234/5 still having ceramic.

My experience is that the ceramics are indeed higher output / more punchy but 'flatter', and the AlNiCos more harmonically rich, which I personally prefer.

 

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On 14/03/2020 at 07:28, PlasmaZombies said:

Hey guys, I read this thread from time to time as I've always considered adding a BB to the armory at some point! Anyways I was watching a video on YouTube about the 3 bass players and their gear from 'The Bay Strikes Back' tour. (Testament, Exodus and Death Angel)

I came across the fact that Jack Gibson from Exodus praises his BB's and thought this may interest you guys. He has a custom one made from lucite - reminiscent of the Dan Armstrong basses.  

Saw the Glasgow leg of the tour last Sunday and have to say was blown away by the bass tone! If anything I want one even more now.

Sorry for the long list but thought someone may find it interesting. Link to video 

 

 

 

Screenshot_20200314-072126_YouTube.jpg

Great stuff, I'll definitely give that a watch! I'm a big fan of Steve DiGiorgio and his work in Autopsy, one of my favourite bass performances of all time on Severed Survival!

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The 43X series has essentially the same pickups as the 73x and P series, its what made me finally decide to go for the 435 instead of forking out for a higher range model..... And they sound killer! 

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