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Markbass combo combinations, advise please


chickenjames
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Hello all

Need some ideas please.
My main rig is a MB CMD121P+NY121P
For practice I have a Minimark 801.

Recently I got caught out and had to use the Minimark for a small gig - and it wasn't loud enough. I borrowed a Roland bass amp, quite new, 120W I think and it sounded nice but weighs a ton.

So what I'm looking for is options to get a louder practice amp that I could use for small gigs but is still super portable. I'm going to be lazy and use watts as equivalent to volume but please feel free to correct this if you can see amps where this doesn't apply.

MInimark 801 weighs 5kg and has 45W

I notice that MB do a Minimark 802 with 150w - but it costs £509. And then I thought, well, for £610 I could get another CMD121P which is 13kg vs 11kg and it's 350W.
And then I thought well what about replacing the CMD121P in my main rig with a 121H?
And then I noticed that TC do lots of lightweight combos like BG250 with two 8" or two 10".

I play funk soul pop in one band and folk in the other - through both rigs.

And now I'm boggled for options so I've come here for ideas :-)

What would you do? Are there any other super lightweight (sub 10kg) and loud (at least 150w) combos that I should be looking at? Or would you prefer I just bit the bullet and upgraded the big rig? Obviously the cmd121p is loud enough for any small gig :-)

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Sorry, should have been clearer about arrangements. I leave my big rig in the rehearsal room and take it to big gigs. I keep the small rig at home for personal practice and would like to take it to small gigs. So what I'm trying to do is replace the little Markbass with something that's man enough for small gigs but is still super light.

As a secondary option I would -consider- using the 121P for home practice and small gigs.

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Just get another CMD121P, then your sound whether it`s at home, rehearsals, small gigs or big gigs is always the same, no need for re-eq-ing. There aren`t that many amps lighter than the CMD121P around that are giggable unless going inot the AER territory, which from what I`ve read are great, lightweight, and rather more expensive.

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AER is the aspirational answer but at €1500-2000 not practical
EICH do a nice 112 combo but more cash than another !Markbass 121p different sound though
The TC and Ashdown options IMO are Inferior to MB
The fender rumble series might have something for you. They are light,cheap and well reviewed but the 500watt 2x10" looks like the only contender for your needs.
There is an interesting Polish combo at around 500 euros - "hand box"??????? Someone else will fill you in.
Good head and good cab hard to beat - Aguilar, mesa, TC. Barefaced cab or Bergantino etc etc. however, great combo I would like.
The 121p is just so hard to beat!
Good luck and if you find something amazing - let us know!

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The 121H is a sizeable upgrade on the 121P simply because it has much higher spec horn than the cheap tweeter in the 121P.

The larger cab size helps with bottom end as well.

My favourite combination of these MB 1x12 combinations is the 121P with a 121H cab. The 121P sits really nicely on top of the 121H.

The 802 doesn't deliver a huge amount more than the 801 in terms of volume so I'm not sure that's goin to help much.

If you didn't already have the 121P I'd keep the baby 1x12 cab at rehearsal room, buy a 121H for gigging with and get a Little Mark head to use for both. The head is easy to transport around between two and you keep a small rig at the rehearsal space that will still be giggable whilst having a bit more oomph for gigs with the 121H and you can combine all 3 for big gigs :)

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I have a MB 151P combo for the main gigs I do and it's plenty powerful for most things, as a home/backup I have a Fender rumble 100w and that is exceptionally good for the smaller gigs and practices, plus it weighs nothing. win win for me.

The phenominally heavy Trace Elliott that lives in the main church, well that's another story :lol:

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I can't imagine there's much better you'll find than the 121P combo for potability/usability.

If you're definite that you need to keep two separate rigs, while I can see the attraction of having and alternative for home, a second 121P or a 121H combo would still be the most likely to fit the small gig aspect of your remit.

I'd personally be tempted to consider making the big rig bigger, maybe a CMD102P and Traveller 151P cab and using the 121P for home. Maybe even get a head and some big cabs for the big rig and then use the NY121 cab with the head at home.

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The OP has the same line up as me: CMD 121P and NY121P and a Micromark 801 for practise.

If you like the MB sound why not sell the 801, buy a Nano head into the NT121P cab for practise and small gigs. Think the technology in the Nano Head is more advanced than in the 802 you tried?

I've gigged the Micromark 801 with my acoustic Americana Band but at 45 watts a decent drum kit will drown it out. Having said that I have rehearsed it with a 4 piece Blues Band, but using the line out into a PA, another possible solution?

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Over the past couple of years I have owned and gigged every combination of the Markbass 121 combos and cabinets. I.e., CMD121H with TRV121H, CMD121H with NY121P, CMD121P with CMD121H and finally CMD121P with NY121P.

Whilst they all sound great IMO, I have actually settled on using my LM3 with either one or two NY121P cabs because this cab has a tweeter level control and does have a bigger sound than the CMD121P (perhaps because of the slightly larger internal volume over the CMD121P combo). The TRV121H cab is a great cab but is almost as large as two NY121P which together go louder with more control IME than a single TRV121H.

Just like the CMD121P hits the combo sweet spot in the Markbass range, the NY121P does it for me in their cabinets.

Assuming you are happy with your tone then my preference would be to have one NY121P at home and two NY121P at the studio and carry a LM3 between the two.

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I had an interesting experience when looking for a 1x12 combo. Tried a few in the shop and the MB 121P was the best sounding by quite a margin. Was about to buy one when I spotted a Phil Jones C4 (4x5) in a corner. Asked what I was like and they plugged a baby GK head into it. Tried it and was amazed. It was louder than the Mark and the tone was much nicer. Ended up buying one and using it with my regular head for small gigs. Have since bought another and am picking up a third next week (my head will run into 2 ohms). Should give me a flexible set up that will handle most things.

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guys, thanks so much for the ideas, here's where I'm at

Options. in no particular order

assume £120 trade in for MB801

1/ get another CMD 121P - cost about £490 after trade in
2/ get a 121H to replace the 121P in the big rig, and use 121P as portable and home combo. Cost £555
3/ Fender Rumble 100. use instead of MB801. Cost £140
4/ Fender Rumble 200. ditto. Cost £320
5/ MB 300W Nano. Use it with NY121P for practice, use CMD121P+NY for big gigs and CMD121P on its own for small ones cost £200.
6/ MB LMIII (or something else 500W). Use it with NY121P for practice, use CMD121P+NY for big gigs and CMD121P on its own for small ones cost £300. Add another NY121P later.
7/ do nothing, cost £0

1/ is sensible but boring
I'm struggling to choose between the others! I tried a Fender 100W today, liked it. Quite loud and very light. Trouble is it doesn't sound as nice as the MB801 at low volume!

heeeeeeeeeeeeeelp

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