BobVbass Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 So I may be a philistine who has no idea of sound transmission and may just about to be flamed by musical purists but.... Epifani HDI cables - just a couple of neutrik connectors and a bit of copper - $187 for 12ft lead!! Apparently gives you amazing clarity of sound and no loss for this bargain price. I have lots of cables with neutrik connectors 30ft long and I've never noticed any problem, they cost about £30 in any music shop. Personally I don't see how the extra £100 is going to improve things - snake oil for people with more money than sense or am I missing something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbyrne Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Nope. G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobVbass Posted September 17, 2015 Author Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nope.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]G.[/font][/color][/quote] haha - end of thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Falls in the same category as directional speaker cables and super-dooper mains leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taunton-hobbit Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 At the risk of getting told off : [center] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][size="1"][b][/b][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="3"]Nordost Valhalla 2 Interconnects [size="2"]RCA & XLR[/size][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="3"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"]HOLO:PLUG™[/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"] Gold Plated RCA/XLR[/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][b][size="3"]Valhalla 2 RCA or XLR interconnects[/size][/b][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"]0.6m pair = £5,199.99 1m pair = £5,999.99 2m pair = £7,599.99 3m pair = £9,199.99 extra per 0.5m = £800.00[/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"]Free P&P. Free 4 day Burn in. More info [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20VIDAR%20Burn%20in%20service.htm"]click here[/url][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"]HOLO:PLUG[/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][color="#000000"][b]Valhalla 2 Analog Interconnects[/b][/color][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"][color="#000000"]The Valhalla 2 Interconnect consists of 10 conductors made from solid, optimized diameter 99.999999% oxygen free copper, each plated with 85 microns of silver. Its surface is highly polished and treated before a precision Dual Mono-Filament wrap is applied. A precision FEP tube is then extruded over each conductor. The ten FEP tubes are then bonded with a proprietary technique to create a tubular interconnect cable, enclosed in two layers of silver shielding. The V2 interconnect is offered with an RCA or XLR HOLO:PLUG™. [/color][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"][color="#000000"]V2 is extremely fast, at over 87% the speed of light. It transmits wide bandwidth signals with incredible speed and minimum phase shift. The V2 cable is state of the art, bettered only by the mighty Odin. It delivers incredible transient response and dynamic resolution so that no musical detail is lost. Each Valhalla 2 interconnect cable is hand built in the USA with HOLO:PLUG™ RCA phono plugs or gold HOLO:PLUG™ XLR connectors.[/color][/size][/font] [font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"]SPECIFICATIONS INSULATION: High purity class 1.1 extruded FEP CONSTRUCTION: Dual Mono-Filament with two layers od silver plated sheilding CONDUCTORS: 10 x 24 AWG solid core MATERIAL: 85 microns of extruded silver over 99.999999% OFC solid-core. CAPACITANCE: 17.0pF/ft DIELECTRIC CONSTANT: 1.38 PROPAGATION DELAY: 87% speed of light CONNECTORS: [/size][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="3"][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"]HOLO:PLUG™[/size][/font][/size][/font][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="1"] Gold Plated RCA/XLR[/size][/font] [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20Reference%20Upgrade%20path.htm"][/url] [b][font="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"][size="2"][url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Panda%20feet%20at%20High%20End%20Cable.htm"][/url][/size][/font][/b] [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20VIDAR%20Burn%20in%20service.htm"][/url] [/center] Makes Epifani look very cheap - how can you refuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevB Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Stuff like the Valhalla always look to me just like a marketing ploy to get people talking (and we fall for it every time) in the hope of getting people to buy other, possibly more sensibly priced, stuff from them. The Epi stuff mentioned by the OP is probably another strategy. Get them made at a sensible cost but then overprice them enough so a few more money than sense weekend warrior stock exchange worker type musos will buy the odd one and they instantly make enough profit that they only need have a handful made every year. Mugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neepheid Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Tatties o'er the side for OBBM then. Yeah, right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger2611 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 [quote name='taunton-hobbit' timestamp='1442482535' post='2867232'] At the risk of getting told off : [center] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][size=1][b][/b][/size][/size][/font][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3]Nordost Valhalla 2 Interconnects [size=2]RCA & XLR[/size][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1]HOLO:PLUG™[/size][/font][/size][/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1] Gold Plated RCA/XLR[/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][b][size=3]Valhalla 2 RCA or XLR interconnects[/size][/b][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2]0.6m pair = £5,199.99 1m pair = £5,999.99 2m pair = £7,599.99 3m pair = £9,199.99 extra per 0.5m = £800.00[/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1]Free P&P. Free 4 day Burn in. More info [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20VIDAR%20Burn%20in%20service.htm"]click here[/url][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1]HOLO:PLUG[/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][color=#000000][b]Valhalla 2 Analog Interconnects[/b][/color][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1][color=#000000]The Valhalla 2 Interconnect consists of 10 conductors made from solid, optimized diameter 99.999999% oxygen free copper, each plated with 85 microns of silver. Its surface is highly polished and treated before a precision Dual Mono-Filament wrap is applied. A precision FEP tube is then extruded over each conductor. The ten FEP tubes are then bonded with a proprietary technique to create a tubular interconnect cable, enclosed in two layers of silver shielding. The V2 interconnect is offered with an RCA or XLR HOLO:PLUG™. [/color][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1][color=#000000]V2 is extremely fast, at over 87% the speed of light. It transmits wide bandwidth signals with incredible speed and minimum phase shift. The V2 cable is state of the art, bettered only by the mighty Odin. It delivers incredible transient response and dynamic resolution so that no musical detail is lost. Each Valhalla 2 interconnect cable is hand built in the USA with HOLO:PLUG™ RCA phono plugs or gold HOLO:PLUG™ XLR connectors.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1]SPECIFICATIONS INSULATION: High purity class 1.1 extruded FEP CONSTRUCTION: Dual Mono-Filament with two layers od silver plated sheilding CONDUCTORS: 10 x 24 AWG solid core MATERIAL: 85 microns of extruded silver over 99.999999% OFC solid-core. CAPACITANCE: 17.0pF/ft DIELECTRIC CONSTANT: 1.38 PROPAGATION DELAY: 87% speed of light CONNECTORS: [/size][/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=3][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1]HOLO:PLUG™[/size][/font][/size][/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=1] Gold Plated RCA/XLR[/size][/font] [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20Reference%20Upgrade%20path.htm"][/url] [b][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=2][url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Panda%20feet%20at%20High%20End%20Cable.htm"][/url][/size][/font][/b] [url="http://www.highendcable.co.uk/Nordost%20VIDAR%20Burn%20in%20service.htm"][/url] [/center] Makes Epifani look very cheap - how can you refuse? [/quote] Ohhh I so want.........my head examining before I parted with my cash for these..... Do we agree that decent cables do make a difference to those normally supplied with guitars, hifi, TV etc? If so I wonder what the cut off point is where the cable is no longer an improvement over the standard but just becomes a status symbol purchase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 87% the speed of light?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassTractor Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) [quote name='Roger2611' timestamp='1442508433' post='2867467'] If so I wonder what the cut off point is where the cable is no longer an improvement over the standard but just becomes a status symbol purchase? [/quote] Listen to Nordost g'demmit! They make the stuff. They should know! Here's what they say: - "The V2 cable is state of the art, bettered only by the mighty Odin", so if my experienced sound quality radar is correct, this means that the mighty Odin contain tons of heavy-duty lightweight balsa tree, which is documented to interline the frequency response phase shift to its very limits. But to answer in a more serious fashion, I do not know, and from my experience it will be very hard to get [b]any[/b] group of people to agree even when they agree with your point itself. Technical tests have had a sad tendency to quantify one parameter or very few parameters only, with limited scope, which IMO is a serious drawback, whilst groups of Hi-Fi listeners are all completely right (in their own heads) whilst at the same time all having heard something different. I'm not even talking about the Hi-Fi nuts here. (I've told it before, but I gave up working in Hi-Fi after a large blinded test my firm organised (equipment behind thin veil plus lighting that made any view on the equipment impossible) and that of course went awry.) Edited September 17, 2015 by BassTractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowhand_mike Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 the nordost Odin speaker cable is a mere £24,995 for 3 meters, so buy 2 of the epifani cables, they are a bargin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamdenRob Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 This is exactly the sort of crap I fall for... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musashimonkey Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 [quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1442572183' post='2867863'] This is exactly the sort of crap I fall for... [/quote] You're not alone! 😉😳☺️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobVbass Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 It's such a relief that use 85 microns of silver coating. I've spent so much time worrying whether to use 87 or 85 as the difference in tone is massive. Now I know they've researched it thoroughly I can just sell my house and buy one of their 3 metre leads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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