Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 So I had to remove the scratchplate on my US Jazz Standard yesterday, so as to compare it to one I've purchased for my Jazz build, and this is what I find: [url="http://imageshack.us"][/url] It's a little odd, because i've removed the plate before and didn't even notice the difference. Anyone else found this or have any explanations? I don't care btw......just thought it was interesting Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) I've seen this before on a few cheaper jazz copies (my jaco'd fretless is the same) but never thought i'd see it on a US fender! I always thought it was to save on finishing costs as it's a covered up area, but then i know absolutely zilch about spraying guitars so that's a complete guess! This is my bass, doesn't bother me either and i have the 'plate off all the time Edited August 27, 2008 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Yeah, I was thinking it was a money-saving technique, but surely the saving is so negligible that it's hardly worth the effort!? Tis an odd one Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Having said i'd never seen it before.......... [url="http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fender-Jaco-Pastorius-Fretless-Jazz-Bass-Guitar?sku=510486&src=3SOSWXXA"]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Fen...mp;src=3SOSWXXA[/url] My bass must be the real deal then, anyone wanna buy it for £1000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Weird! Maybe it has literally been a money saving technique since the start, and seeing as Jaco took his scratchplate off, the reissues must be copying it right down to that detail! Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) I've seen that finish on many Fender Jazz basses I have fixed but I've never seen that kind of route on the neck pup or the route for the wiring on an American Fender Jazz. It should be the same kind of route for the bridge pup and the wires should tunnel through. They do it on modern Squiers and other cheaper basses, I'm shocked to see such a cost cutting excercise. Edited August 27, 2008 by steve-soar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You've got me wanting to go to my local music store armed with a screwdriver now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Me too, the cheeky penny-pinchin' bas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I thought the missing hidden burst colour was a well=known Fender cost-cutting exercise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 It is but not the "bang, 3 seconds, done" routing. It takes about a minute to drill the wiring tunnel from the pickup cavity to the control cavity and the neck pup cavity should be the same as the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 I also though that the neck pickup on a Jazz was narrower than the bridge one so two templates would be required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 You have the best of both worlds there, 3T Sunburst and Tobacco Sunburst! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassassin Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Every 70s Japcrap Jazz copy I've dismembered (and that's quite a few) has been painted like that. Not very many have such blatantly cheap & nasty pickup routing. Another reason to buy CIJ? Jon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tait Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 it'd be interesting to see how many fender jazzes DO have 3TS under the pickguard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemmywinks Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) [quote name='Bassassin' post='271292' date='Aug 27 2008, 08:26 PM']Every 70s Japcrap Jazz copy I've dismembered (and that's quite a few) has been painted like that. Not very many have such blatantly cheap & nasty pickup routing. Another reason to buy CIJ? Jon.[/quote] I imagine you'd be extremely annoyed if you bought it planning to use it without the scratchplate.................. Not such a good stage look! Post recently edited due to bad english! Edited August 27, 2008 by lemmywinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 My Mexican Jazz is exactly the same... can't see a decent reason for it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 aye funny routs. cheap and nasty way to make it. and why the wee hole routed in it? whats that for? my CIJ p doesnt have one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 I'm not fussed about the routing, the bass sounds awesome lol And what idiot would use a jazz bass without a scratchplate! My bass is around 2003/2004, so it seems more cost cutting came into play!? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebeat Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 [quote name='LukeFRC' post='271372' date='Aug 27 2008, 10:10 PM']aye funny routs. cheap and nasty way to make it. and why the wee hole routed in it? whats that for? my CIJ p doesnt have one of them[/quote] My Special P Bsss (Basschat controversial model), which has either an american hotrod or mexican special body, depending on who you listen to, has that hole too. I think it may be used when they're applying the finish for holding the body as they don't have any paint in them. Then again, i'm no Sherlock Holmes....John? yes , Sherlock no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 [quote name='BigRedX' post='271268' date='Aug 27 2008, 07:31 PM']I also though that the neck pickup on a Jazz was narrower than the bridge one so two templates would be required?[/quote]Your right they are but I mean the lugs that are routed out for the height adjustment screws should be on the neck pup also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) [quote name='LukeFRC' post='271372' date='Aug 27 2008, 10:10 PM']aye funny routs. cheap and nasty way to make it. and why the wee hole routed in it? whats that for? my CIJ p doesnt have one of them[/quote]The hole is so it can be mounted on a turntable to be sprayed around on the back of the body. Edited August 27, 2008 by steve-soar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 I've just had a thought about the extra routing on mine, might it be because of the S1 switch, there being a few more cables and bits & bobs!? Anyone else with S1 era jazzes and non-S1 era jazzes fancy taking some pictures? lol Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdphysio Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 My 1999 MIM Jazz has exactly the same routing, so you're not alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 ...the same as my old MIM Jazz. Are you *sure* yours is MIA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibob Posted August 27, 2008 Author Share Posted August 27, 2008 Well I guess I'm about 90% sure, the headstock decal says made in USA with serial number that dates it correctly, it has US standard tuners, it has the S1 switch system, it came in the standard US hardcase with truss rod tool etc. I can't think that someone went to all the trouble of putting these US bits and pieces onto a MIM body!? Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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