discreet Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 [quote name='Karl Derrick' timestamp='1407777041' post='2523920'] Nah, all my stuff will outlive me [/quote] Your stuff will definitely outlive me. And probably the young master discreet, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Discreet, Can you give me your button-to-button strap length? Might as well work to a 'real' strap size Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) 136cm. That is most likely a higher-than-average figure. Because I've got a rounder-than-average figure. Edited August 11, 2014 by discreet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlungerModerno Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 [quote name='Karl Derrick' timestamp='1407776206' post='2523902'] Well, they're laid out and cut with a knife, lined with 1mm thick suede, glued together, stitched around the edge, then they are edged, stained and burnished. Then waxed and burnished. Take a long day each to make. There's about £35.00 to £40.00 in material and fittings for each strap. Going to be around £135.00 to £145.00 each, plus postage. Karl [/quote] That's a fair price considering the materials, and the skilled hours poured into each unit. You're paying for the design too. I'm not sure if a patent would be possible/applicable, but it's not insane to expect a reasonable mark up on innovation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Thanks very much, I do try for the best for the client and something for my work, too. I just need to make a reasonable hourly rate. I agree the design work should be recognized too, but it never is The irony here, is that I'll make what I hope is the world's most comfortable bass strap.... and I still haven't got a bass of my own Still looking for a Kubicki Ex Factor. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Can folk please chime in with the size of the mounting holes they would like to see on the strap? As these are custom length, they can also have custom mounting options. So if you have a brand of straplock you prefer, or unusual knobs (steady) on your bass, we can accomodate them if you can supply the hole and slot size for buttons, or hole size for straplocks. I'm going to be making the sample strap this week. I'll take some pics when it's done. I have a lot on, so it'll be fitted in where possible, but it'll be done this week. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) A bit late in the day here (no change there then), but this is the best leather strap I have found so far. Not perfect but good; uses velcro to adjust the length at one end. [url="http://www.levysleathers.com/product;cat,818;item,374;Bass-Guitar-Straps-M29"]http://www.levysleat...itar-Straps-M29[/url] Certainly interested in new developments though! Edited August 12, 2014 by ead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Strap button hole diameter = 6.5mm Slot length from centre of hole = 20mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 Very good. Thank you, Discreet. Thanks for that input Ead, but the velcro has to be glued and stitched to the leather which means more labour and a higher price. Also, those straps are machine stitched, not hand stitched as mine will be. The 'pad area' is realtively small in comparison to mine, and offers no weight distribution along the strap in either direction. so, the weight of the bass will be centred in the area of the pad. I'm trying with my design, to spread the weight of the bass out as far as possible around the body. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Here we are then, The finished prototype/sample strap. Very soft, very strong, very comfortable. Fully suede lined, fully hand stitched, completely original design. We like? [attachment=169084:all.jpg] [attachment=169085:front.jpg] [attachment=169086:mid.jpg] [attachment=169087:middle.jpg] [attachment=169088:rear.jpg] [attachment=169089:strap.jpg] [attachment=169090:tail.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I like that! The only thing that worries me is that the little button catch things (don't know the proper name sorry) have no save if they fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) They don't fail. One alone will hold the bass, two is belt and braces. I went through this on a previous post if you look back through the thread. I set two of them in a leather strap and hung my entire 13 stone weight off it. No failure. I do this for a living and they are a stock item for me, I use them a lot. I set them with special tools and a press. Never had one fail, never had one pop accidentally. These are made by 'Durable Dot' fasteners in the USA, they are military spec fasteners made to NATO specification. Karl Edited August 13, 2014 by Karl Derrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myke Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Fair enough, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Not at all They do look a lot like the cheaper tinny versions on crappy leather goods the world over. I honestly did not expect them to hold my weight, but they did! I could add a third if anyone's genuinely worried about their bass hitting the deck... It's the extra cost of a single extra fitting, no big deal. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILL POSTERS Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Aint got tme to read the whole thread, so sorry if its been mentioned. Always used to fancy a strapmade of webbing. like army belt type stuff. fittings n the ends where it attaches made of brass, and a proper buckle for adjusting the length at the front, ie, between the left shoulder and the Bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks for the input. I'm certain you can already get straps like that. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ead Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 LIking the look of the strap. What happens next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Looks very good - can't wait to try it out. Er... is that one mine, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Thanks everyone. If we all like it, what happens next is the official 'interest thread'. This one wasn't made for anyone in particular, although it was made to Discreet's specs. More so to make it to a set of real measurements than anything else.... I'd like to wait for a little more feedback, then we can crack on. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Right, No more feedback forthcoming overnight. I'll start the sign up thread in the classified section.. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 (edited) Just sorting out where to put the signup thread..... Bear with. Karl Edited August 14, 2014 by Karl Derrick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 [quote name='Karl Derrick' timestamp='1408002503' post='2526090'] Just sorting out where to put the signup thread..... Bear with. Karl [/quote] drop a mod a pm, they'll point you in the right direction matey affiliates maybe? or possibly a forsale thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Talking to mods. Got my thread pulled from 'for sale', so trying to sort out Affiliates. Stay tuned Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixiechick23 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 I damaged my shoulders quite a while back & I hate using straps generally because I haven't found one padded enough to support my shoulders if that makes sense? If I have an unpadded nylon strap on my guitar it puts way too much pressure on my shoulders, aggravating an old injury so personally I'd be looking for padding and a lot of it. Some kind of memory foam type padding that would mould to the shoulder would be cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Derrick Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 This particular design is unpadded, because the width of the strap and the contour distributes the weight evenly over the player's body. As, such, the design isn't suited to padding. I can design a padded strap for you if you like. Email me [email protected] Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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