Raggy Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 So my Berg 412 is up for sale soon and I am going back to 2 15" loaded cabs as I am looking for something more modular and I like 15s. I have narrowed it down to the above two cabs. Have tried the Genz 15 and liked it very much but have not seen or tried a Compact. The Compacts are half the weight, a fair bit cheaper and as Alex seems to know his onions and specialises in bass enclosures should be engineered and perform extremely well. The Ubers have tweeters (not that I have ever used one or felt I needed one, but you can always turn them off/down) which is an extra feature and Genz seem to make some very well respected bass products. How a cab looks does not [i]really[/i] bother me, I have normally got my back to them but I know some on here have commented that the Compacts have an almost unfinished look. So any info would be very helpful. Ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Raggy' post='1368679' date='Sep 10 2011, 04:17 PM']....The Compacts are half the weight, a fair bit cheaper and as Alex seems to know his onions and specialises in bass enclosures should be engineered and perform extremely well....[/quote] Well you've convinced me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimrs2k Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Raggy' post='1368679' date='Sep 10 2011, 04:17 PM']So my Berg 412 is up for sale soon and I am going back to 2 15" loaded cabs as I am looking for something more modular and I like 15s. I have narrowed it down to the above two cabs. Have tried the Genz 15 and liked it very much but have not seen or tried a Compact. The Compacts are half the weight, a fair bit cheaper and as Alex seems to know his onions and specialises in bass enclosures should be engineered and perform extremely well. The Ubers have tweeters (not that I have ever used one or felt I needed one, but you can always turn them off/down) which is an extra feature and Genz seem to make some very well respected bass products. How a cab looks does not [i]really[/i] bother me, I have normally got my back to them but I know some on here have commented that the Compacts have an almost unfinished look. So any info would be very helpful. Ta [/quote] HI, well i run my shuttlemax 9.2 thur a fearul 15/6/1, i would say its similar to the compact overall and if you like clarity with endless bottom,then look no further job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 hmmm can I interest myself in an NV412...? no horn though..??? nice dims..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1368687' date='Sep 10 2011, 04:24 PM']Well you've convinced me.[/quote] That's kinda what's swaying it for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Those EAD 2x12s look nice, but then again, it isnt a 1x15, no idea why I mentioned it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted September 10, 2011 Author Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='jimrs2k' post='1368708' date='Sep 10 2011, 04:53 PM']HI, well i run my shuttlemax 9.2 thur a fearul 15/6/1, i would say its similar to the compact overall and if you like clarity with endless bottom,then look no further job done.[/quote] Does the 6" speaker make much difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimrs2k Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 [quote name='Raggy' post='1368815' date='Sep 10 2011, 07:13 PM']Does the 6" speaker make much difference?[/quote] God yes !!, simply the best, cleanest tone ive had in 25 years of playing. After 13 years of exelent ashdown kit this is night and day. Better in every way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyBRebelMC Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I have a compact and am very happy with, I used a Markbass 121p plus 121ny cab before and wanted a one cab solution. I would say a couple of things about the compact - firstly it is very very light which was one of my main needs but what I did find was because the driver is low to the graound compared to my previous rig I found it difficult to hear myself especially as I'm nearly always stood pretty much inches from it (small pubs - gotta love em eh). I have however just had a revelation - I did a wedding gig last night and tried raising the cab by putting it on it's side on a keyboard x frame stand - job done! I can hear myself, the drummer could hear me and was very pleased and the clarity of the sound out front was improved also. this is of course just my experience but as your current rig is quite tall you might have a similar experience with any single 15" cab. cheers Martin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 [quote name='MartyBRebelMC' post='1369208' date='Sep 11 2011, 10:59 AM']I have a compact and am very happy with, I used a Markbass 121p plus 121ny cab before and wanted a one cab solution. I would say a couple of things about the compact - firstly it is very very light which was one of my main needs but what I did find was because the driver is low to the graound compared to my previous rig I found it difficult to hear myself especially as I'm nearly always stood pretty much inches from it (small pubs - gotta love em eh). I have however just had a revelation - I did a wedding gig last night and tried raising the cab by putting it on it's side on a keyboard x frame stand - job done! I can hear myself, the drummer could hear me and was very pleased and the clarity of the sound out front was improved also. this is of course just my experience but as your current rig is quite tall you might have a similar experience with any single 15" cab. cheers Martin[/quote] I also found this with my Compact, coming from the 410 & 210, or 412 rigs I had previously. My solution - buy a Barefaced Midget to go with the Compact. Yes, a fairly expensive set-up, but I can carry both cabs at once - and I`ve a bad back - I have no trouble hearing myself, and it sounds awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Here's what they look like now: The cabs that went out 'on tour' and attracted a few pejorative 'homemade' comments were the very early ones - that was quite a few years ago - the fundamentals haven't changed but everything else has, resulting in a product with cosmetics to match performance. The fEarfuls are much more like the Big Series cabs - different design for a different purpose! As I've always said though, get a cab that gets the sound you want and the loudness you need whilst fulfilling your practical requirements. It doesn't matter whether that comes from 15"s, 12"s, 10"s or a crate filled with mice waving those oriental fans at appropriate frequencies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BassBod Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I feel let down...you never told me about the mice option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimrs2k Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='1371755' date='Sep 13 2011, 01:38 PM']Here's what they look like now: The cabs that went out 'on tour' and attracted a few pejorative 'homemade' comments were the very early ones - that was quite a few years ago - the fundamentals haven't changed but everything else has, resulting in a product with cosmetics to match performance. The fEarfuls are much more like the Big Series cabs - different design for a different purpose! As I've always said though, get a cab that gets the sound you want and the loudness you need whilst fulfilling your practical requirements. It doesn't matter whether that comes from 15"s, 12"s, 10"s or a crate filled with mice waving those oriental fans at appropriate frequencies![/quote] Good point, i have played thru one of your big ones and if i had bot allready built my cab, i think i might have cut his hands off for it, i have not tried a compact but i doubt i would be disapointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyonbass Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Hey, Raggy, I have a compact and I'm in Swindon, if you want to check it out sometime, drop me a pm and we can try and arrange a convenient time. Got a midget too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raggy Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 [quote name='andyonbass' post='1372467' date='Sep 13 2011, 08:18 PM']Hey, Raggy, I have a compact and I'm in Swindon, if you want to check it out sometime, drop me a pm and we can try and arrange a convenient time. Got a midget too [/quote] Very kind of you Andy, cheers. PM sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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