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I hate to be a killjoy but an average classical guitarist could do that on a guitar easy peasy. The guy's just making it more difficult for himself by playing it on a 4 string bass. What next? Is he going to try playing it on a unicycle while tightrope walking over the Niagra Falls. Impressive but ultimately pointless.

I'm such a heartless bastard!

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[quote name='gjones' post='1364855' date='Sep 7 2011, 01:23 AM']I hate to be a killjoy but an average classical guitarist could do that on a guitar easy peasy. The guy's just making it more difficult for himself by playing it on a 4 string bass. What next? Is he going to try playing it on a unicycle while tightrope walking over the Niagra Falls. Impressive but ultimately pointless.

I'm such a heartless bastard![/quote]

No worries mate, I wasn't impressed by the technicality of it, I myself can play arguably more technical two handed tapping pieces, thing is, he wrote that, and IMO it sounds bloody good, not just the tone but the whole piece, that's what I was impressed with!

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I loved the piece and the execution, although I appreciate the technique and of course the music, I am left wondering when does a bass stop being a bass i.e. playing low register driving harmony & rhythm and becomes something looking just like a bass but strung with thinner strings and sounding like a guitar played by Stanley Jordan who has been boring audiences worldwide with that very style for the last 20 years?



Oh and if Stanley Jordan wasn't enough Michael Manring gave us a few years of the same wishy washy stuff before he returned to play proper bass. So its all Deja' Vu to me. Horses for courses and all that.

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[quote name='longtimefred' post='1365505' date='Sep 7 2011, 05:36 PM']I used to cringe at the thought of a Chapman Stick, just thought it was a really uber geeky thing to play. That guy playing on the video was really good. credit to the man.

Now put it in a song..... lol

(waiting to be hit with links to videos of songs with chapman sticks in now to prove me wrong) lol.[/quote]

There's a guy on here who used to play live bass for Cynic (I know, I was drooling with admiration), he used the Stick with them on occasion.

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[quote name='gjones' post='1364855' date='Sep 7 2011, 01:23 AM']I hate to be a killjoy but an average classical guitarist could do that on a guitar easy peasy. The guy's just making it more difficult for himself by playing it on a 4 string bass. What next? Is he going to try playing it on a unicycle while tightrope walking over the Niagra Falls. Impressive but ultimately pointless.[/quote]

For once I don't agree with this sentiment. For starters, he's written a fairly impressive song, regardless what you or I might think of it. I don't think it's fair to say that a classical guitar player would trounce his efforts because even if they replicated what he was doing with ease, he was the one who wrote the piece of music, ergo displaying a talent that transcends a simple technical exercise on a bass guitar. Furthermore I would say that if his comfort zone is the bass, then he should probably write music on it. It stands to reason really. Whilst it might seem a pointless endeavour for some, I think his music suits his instrument.

I personally don't usually enjoy solo bass guitar and am hugely conservative when I think about the role of bass in music. However, I don't like to deny talent when I see it for the sake of trying to keep my views on bass sacred, and I happen to think this guy has talent. Check this vid out (again, not usually my thing, but very impressive and harmonically interesting):

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Its just not a sound I find emotionally engaging. A beautifully bowed cello, a nylon guitar, a saxophone, bass clarinet. All sound lovely and, when played, are deep instruments, complex tonally and profoundly versatile in terms of putting emotion into a piece of music. These tapping extravaganzas always sound two deimentional to me, even the good ones (the Epic Love one here and the one by Kevin Glasgow elsewhere on here). At worst they sound like someone threw a plugged in bass down the stairs. They are generally very repetitive (four note patterns created using two fingers off each hand then the arpeggio is moved up a whole tone etc) and there is little vibrato, little dynamic range etc. Just party tricks, rudimentary compositions played using a trick that is as much a visual thing as it is musical - played on a piano, it would be a bit naff.

And, for my money, [i]so[/i] not worth the time investment required.

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[quote name='funkypenguin' post='1364859' date='Sep 7 2011, 01:48 AM']He's good, but for me, the bass (unless you go well into the realms of ERBs) will always be trounced by the chapman stick when it comes to tapping


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It's very impressive to watch but the only place I envisage the tune is in a porno from the 80s. : :)

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