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I was given this Westfield Bass broken. I've fixed and it works fine.

I love the true P bass sound or a similar Thick chunky thud of a bass.

What would you change?

The bass doesn't stand me in for a penny and at the end of the days it's a cheap bass so it aint gonna sound great.

We all love pics so here she is.










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I also have one of these bought cheaply, albeit in Bright Pink! Stock it does actually sound very good especially for the price although didnt quite have enough low end so I decided on a pickup upgrade. A word of warning on replacing the pickup is that the stock pickups seem to be wider than standard replacements such as the Seymour Duncan I wanted to drop in so you may need to drill some different holes in order to do this. Also this may cause problems with the pickguard fitting as I found. Bridge can easily be replaced with the usual suspects, e.g. Gotoh, Badass etc. All in all though a very playable bass for not alot of money!

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[quote name='Perry' post='152413' date='Mar 6 2008, 02:56 PM']I was given this Westfield Bass broken. I've fixed and it works fine.

I love the true P bass sound or a similar Thick chunky thud of a bass.

What would you change?

The bass doesn't stand me in for a penny and at the end of the days it's a cheap bass so it aint gonna sound great.

l[/quote]

Nice work! That must be really satisfying.

It might sound great, you never know. Try a new pickup, they're easy to fit and if it doesn't turn it into a great bass you can always take it out and put it in the next one. I like Seymour Duncan Quarter Pounders. Others hate them.

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Well you could probably upgrade any part of the bass that you wished (including body and neck if necessary), but recently I was in the same situation as you with a cheap Jazz Bass and I changed (or am in the process of changing) the following:

- Pickups (Wizards)
- Electrics (new passive circuit from basspartsresource)
- Bridge (BadAss II)
- Tuners (Hipshot Ultralites)
- Nut (plastic to brass)
- Thumbrest (added)
- Added Straplocks
- Neckplate
- Pickguard (from white to tort - purely cosmetic)

I thought the body and neck were fine when I got it, I gave both a good going over with steel wool though and polished them up nicely before taking it out to gigs though.

Actually...I may well compile a thread detailing my upgrades, watch this space :)

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personally, I'd put a BADASS II on, either seymour duncan quarter pounders or EMGs, a black pickguard (but tort would look good, too) and put a fender logo on.

EDIT: acidbass, just read your suggestion for a thumbrest. that wouldn't be a bad idea either.

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[quote name='lwtait' post='153578' date='Mar 8 2008, 01:00 PM']personally, I'd put a BADASS II on, either seymour duncan quarter pounders or EMGs, a black pickguard (but tort would look good, too) and put a fender logo on.

EDIT: acidbass, just read your suggestion for a thumbrest. that wouldn't be a bad idea either.[/quote]

How much would that cost?

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To minimise outlay for maximum effect, I'd suggest changing things in this order, assessing as you go ...

Strings,
Gotoh 203 bridge (very much like the new US fender bridge) £20
Nut: Corian, Brass or bone probably about £25 fitted by a luthier.

I'd keep everything else unless it sounds bad and then go for

PUP (thumper's seem to be very popular)
Pots/capacitor/wiring/jack

Couple of grolsh strap locks instead of schallers, plate change is up to you, Fender logo? well on that a spoof logo would be fun (see the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=248"]Misceleneous parts and stuff suppliers list[/url]

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I won this on eBay today. I will use the good bits and ditch the rest.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290210387811&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...N:IT&ih=019[/url]

Also put a set of flatwounds and nut. Maybe change the bridge depending on costs.

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[quote name='Perry' post='154151' date='Mar 9 2008, 08:14 PM']I won this on eBay today. I will use the good bits and ditch the rest.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290210387811&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...N:IT&ih=019[/url]

Also put a set of flatwounds and nut. Maybe change the bridge depending on costs.[/quote]

Oh good score ...
Looks like it's sorteh then
:)

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Well done! From the P I'd take the pickup, the scratchplate and the wiring (purely for convenience). Thumbrest too. I would've preferred a tortoise shell scratchplate but black'll look cool too. I know a few folk have suggested a Fender logo for the headstock but I'd be inclined to go the opposite way and just have it totally blank, they look [i]much[/i] cooler!
A few months ago I saw Kill Kenada supporting Reuben and KK's bassist/singer had a pink Westfield, and had the elepahant ear buttons removed from the A, D and G string machineheads. Presumably all he had to do was go between standard and drop D but that must make changing strings a bastard!

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[quote name='Perry' post='153836' date='Mar 9 2008, 10:54 AM']How much would that cost?[/quote]

not too much, thats pretty much what i did with my squier, tbh. i cant really remember, but i think it was less than £100.

has anyone said ashtrays yet, i cant see anything about them? they look cool but get in the way...

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If you want more (heaps) sustain and tops try a Badass 3 bridge. They are more the footprint of a standard Fender plate rather than the Badass 2 which isn't as asthetically pleasing. Just my opinion. The 203 Gotoh sound like a nice compromise between a Badass and a standard plate. I'm thinking of trying one on my SX on OldGits recommendation.

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[quote name='Perry' post='154151' date='Mar 9 2008, 08:14 PM']I won this on eBay today. I will use the good bits and ditch the rest.

[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=290210387811&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=019"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...N:IT&ih=019[/url]

Also put a set of flatwounds and nut. Maybe change the bridge depending on costs.[/quote]

I won that body on ebay a few months back also :) . Hope you have more luck with the seller than I did. I got my money back so I didn't leave negative feedback, which on reflection I should have done. I won at a far lower price and I think he simply wasn't prepared to honour the transaction.
Good luck with that bass
Chris

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That looks like a rosewood fingerboard... have you considered Doing a Jaco on it? I hear the frets come out more easily if you heat them up with a soldering iron, and 2-part clear epoxy is inexpensive these days. :)

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[quote name='Freuds_Cat' post='155056' date='Mar 11 2008, 06:29 AM']If you want more (heaps) sustain and tops try a Badass 3 bridge. They are more the footprint of a standard Fender plate rather than the Badass 2 which isn't as asthetically pleasing. Just my opinion. The 203 Gotoh sound like a nice compromise between a Badass and a standard plate. I'm thinking of trying one on my SX on OldGits recommendation.[/quote]

i think the badass 2 looks much better than the 3, but i suppose its just an opinion. it also depends what look you're going for, if you want a vintage look about it a badass 2 isn't a great option, but on the other hand, if yo0u want it to look a bit more modern, the badass 2 looks great. for example, the badass 2 fits in with the whole black and chrome look of my p in my avatar, because its a chunk of chrome lol.

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[quote name='lwtait' post='155415' date='Mar 12 2008, 03:24 AM']If you want a vintage look about it a badass 2 isn't a great option, but on the other hand, if yo0u want it to look a bit more modern, the badass 2 looks great.[/quote]

Yep I agree. :)



simon1964: my favourite combo is combo is Badass with EMG Actives (Sustain and balance of tone plus no rf) but I recently bought an SX P bass (albeit with a Jazz pup in the rear). I'm gonna put a Brierley Vinatge P in it and do some experimenting for a more old school organic sound (damn it, now I sound like a hippie). :huh:

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You could hang on to the body you just got off e-bay and buy a fretless jazz or p-bass neck for it to snuggle up to.

Unlined maple fingerboard would be nice.........

I got a nice ash Jazz bass body from the people below - first saw them sell stuff on e-bay but then made enquiries via their website - good to deal with and prompt in their delivery across the pond. They do necks too a la Warmouth. The Jazz body fitted my Jap P-Bass neck like a glove......

[url="http://www.bhefnerco.com/bass.htm"]http://www.bhefnerco.com/bass.htm[/url]

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