theplumber

Still gigging at 61 and enjoying it. Seeing the same old issues coming through in all the recent bands I have been in. Wew are all pretty complex and slightly annoying at times! But we try!!!

Buy a Westfield....£60!

Russ Ballard....

I wished I had never seen this...oh no!!!

Herbie Flowers.

Zoom H1 or H1N...jobs a good un!

Our guitarist...He said the very same. The system normally would involve being hooked up to a mixer and being fed by the aux ...Our singer owns the PA and likes to...how shall we say..mess about with the levels during the night. Another reason for me to stick with the Zoom field recorder and headphone amp....

Finally managed to try out the IEM setup at a gig on new years eve. I used the KZ ZS10 pro IEM,Behringer P2 wired to an Olympus DS 40 voice recorder. As you can imagine the voice recorder had it's limitations...ie not up to the job but it worked enough to let me see if it's a road I will go down!. The answer is yes...100%. I set up the voice recorder on my mike stand using a drinks holder..lol Anyway it did the job,I had a decent sound in ear and at one point I took one of the phones out to see the difference!...My god!!! Are we that loud! It showed how much the IEM with a decent memory foam bud does in blocking out the onstage sound!. I have now purchased the Zoom H1 N and a decent mini jack to XLR and clamp/holder. The next couple of gigs are on ice at the moment due to the restrictions in Scotland. I think the next outing in Feb is at Whistlebinkies in Edinburgh so will try and get the sound guy to hook me up to his monitor system. Failng that I will hook the setup and try it out. A couple of the band have expressed an interest in how it all works so fingers crossed that it may open the door for a way forward regards to the volume issue. As for packing the band in...it's Glasgow,there are very few decent bands with good folk in them. Too long in the tooth to start looking for something else now...there are plenty of bands but some very strange folk in them lol. But to finish..yes,no sore ears,I got a decent balance and it was very relaxed...oh and a very good gig! Happy New Year folk!!

Just heard the news. What a shame. ....

Out gigging in Paisley. It had been cancelled and is now on again with lower numbers. It remains to be seen who actually turns out as it was fully sold out before.Due to restrictions in Scotland the venue has had to split the event in to two shows with seating and table service. Glad to be out anyway. It was either that or bed. At least I won't have to watch Jools Holland and his usual suspects again...

Buy a sandberg...

Does he make beer?

Had a good chat with the band and they all agreed about the volume issue. It was an issue before I joined and the previous bass player went out and bought the custom molded plugs. Its mostly pub gigs we do with the odd thing on a proper stage with sound guy and big PA.I have bought a set of KZ ZS10 pro IEM. On recomendation of all the info I have learned off this forum. At the very least I will have a nice set of phones for home use if it doesnt work out with the live thing. I will order a headphone amp,probs the Behringer. I think some of the band may have a go at some point but at the moment its just me. Which is fine as I am the one whos is moaning about sore ears. We have agreed to keep the volume at a decent level in future...Let's see how that goes. Will try them out in house first,then maybe practise. If it all works out I may pay a bit more for a decent set but looking forward to giving these a go.

Thats the road I will be going down..Thanks for all advice!

I do.....poor sods!

Currently ACS Pacato but also have some off amazon called Hearprotek..Anything with pro in it must be good lol and Docs pro plug which I like then lost one...

I won't be walking away...but I will be buying myself a set of in ear monitors and headphone amp. I will give it a bash and they may follow. Its hard to get folk to break the habit. If they want to go deaf thats up to them....

As the title say's... Been with the guys 3 or 4 months now and have been using various makes of earplugs. They do make a bit of a difference. The hissing is still in the ears after most gigs but it goes away over a few days. The band is bass,drums,two guitars and singer.One of the guitar players is pretty deaf and when he puts his earplugs in and turns his amp up,the volume is over the top. The other player has his Marshall cab cranked up and the drums are trying to compete followed by me and then the vocals rammed up full tilt. Now some gigs are better than others,so it's not just the volume issue,it's placement, in house PA,etc..But last Saturday was the very worst. I found myself stuck in a volume triangle of drums,bass and guitar. I had my plugs in but at times it was painful. The pub was medium size and packed to the hilt. No room to move away from the sound source. I have brought it up with the band and they have agreed to turn down....again! I like the guys,it's a great wee fun band but it's time to try and sort out some stuff. I don't really tyhink much will change so am looking for a solution. The plugs are ok to a point but I am thinking about some sort of in ear monitors for myself. I know all the stuff about the whole band going through the desk and using in ears...that won't happen..trust me! Years ago I did a theatre show for a few nights. In rehearsal the actors used ambient mikes,those square ones that you see on tables etc..This was to allow them to move about and sing (It was RENT) Anyway,I struggled to hear vocals above guitar,bass,keys and drums. I rigged up a mike through a wee mixer and stuck some headphones up picking up the ambient sound,ie the band and singers.It seemed to work ok. When the show was performed they had head mikes and the sound was even better... The point is (yes there is a point) Has anybody had a similar situation and how did they sort it out. Apart from turning down,I feel they only way forward is to set up a mike and stick some cans on or earbuds getting an ambient feed of the band and trying to block out the actual racket on stage... I could take a feed off the mixer but it would only be vocals and some drums cause thats all thats going through...Any ideas?

I feel dirty just looking at it....

I bet the Fender guys in the custom shop are plopping it now....This guy knows the secrets!!

No one can hear a thing when we play,so it's not an issue.And I can't hear for a week afterwards...

Words.......fail me!!!!

Thought it was really funny when young Heather came on the scene and started doing a Yoko along with one of the songs.....