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[quote name='Jerry_B' post='1286999' date='Jun 29 2011, 09:41 PM']It'd be interesting to see which is more popular too - lined or unlined (unlined for me)...?[/quote] One of each here. Unlined looks best, but I'm grateful for lines when spot-on intonation really matters, like recording or ballads where the bass is very exposed and you only get one shot. The dot markers matter more to me than lines. Anyone starting out really should think of moving them to over the relevant fret positions if they're not there already.

I hate playing fretted now cos it feels so clumsy on the fingers. Because of my band sound I normally play fretless like fretted but i have the option of giving it some mwah if I want. I daren't jump around like I used to though.

That fretless is a dream.

SVP Pro preamp (9lbs) and a lightweight as a power amp?

Just found Crescendo and thought this is it! Beautifully simple. But so simple it doesn't seem to have copy n paste for bars.

LOL First time I've ever been tempted by anything Mac.

[quote name='lowdown' post='1277494' date='Jun 21 2011, 06:56 PM']Go to youtube, i think there might be some vids on Finale, could be of use to you. [Depending on what version you have] You might be right about Finale being a bit flaky for your needs [on the older versions] But on Finale 2010 & 2011 no such problems. In Finale you can place Chords & Lyrics where ever you please. [As with Sibelius as well] Garry[/quote] Great, thanks. I've got 2008. I'll check the later ones out. You'd think there'd be a simple and cheap app for this wouldn't you, seeing as more or less every band on the planet knocks off chord charts regularly. Over £100 for a Finale upgrade to 2011. Cripes.

[quote name='Thurbs' post='1276671' date='Jun 21 2011, 09:14 AM']Just did this last night on MuseScore... I am no expert by any stretch.[/quote] Thing is, I've no need to write the notes at all. What i need to do is write the chord symbols in the bars rather than on top.

[quote name='lowdown' post='1274175' date='Jun 18 2011, 09:59 PM']To be honest if you have Finale, go with that, dead easy to do what you want. For your purpose you would just use add lyric or just Text input for the Lyrics, and just click add chord and use the one[s] you want. Key sig and time sig you just add when you open up a new document. [attachment=83022:LYRIC_SHEETS.pdf] Garry[/quote] Thanks Garry, I'll revisit Finale and give it a shot. I was probably setting about the wrong way.

I have to say, if that happened to me I'd panic too. Looks like a happy ending though

Just an added point: The first decision about strings should probably be to do with whether you'll need to use a mag pickup to get loud volumes without feedback. That will imply steel strings and cut the field down considerably.

All i want to do is make up chord charts with time and key sig, and lyrics. I've got Finale but it's all too roundabout. Last looked for such a thing a coupla years ago and nothing. Any new app out there that might be good for this?

The only time i got to hear what my bass actually sounded like was when my luthier played it. Let's face it, we're always standing too close to hear the projected sound anyhow. And, as has been said, the room makes such a difference.

[quote name='jonthebass' post='1271945' date='Jun 16 2011, 06:28 PM']Yet another convert here to Dave/OBBM's Bassic Bits cables. Nothing but top quality parts, workmanship and reasonable prices. He is the man and I wouldn't think twice about recommending him to others in need of bass related cables of any sort. He does a BC member discount too I believe?[/quote] Same same +1000

I think there has to be a distinction between worrying about the acoustic sound and the amplified sound. It seems legit to want the amplified sound to at least sound like a double bass, and that bit seems to take some time and expense. It's bound to be the same as with bass guitar anyhow - what sounds good solo mightn't be best in the mix. As for the acoustic sound, it's nice when it's nice, but I'm going to be the only person who notices, assuming that miking up is for higher beings anyhow.

I'm not against the bow for intonation - so many people say it's important - but if you need to make progress in a hurry then imo it can wait as long as your ear is good. Rabbath makes intonation problems much less anyhow because you have far fewer position changes. I doubt anything I've said makes sense if you want to play jazz and you can take your time, but if you're playing more straightforward music and you need to be able to function quickly, then you just need to get on with it. I'll be returning to the bow shortly, cos I can pretty well do what my band needs me to be able to do. And i'd kill to able to play some classical pieces. btw, on markings, i've found that after a while of reading, I wasn't looking at them anyhow. But i do like to throw the bass about a bit.

+1 on a couple of lessons. You do not want to hurt yourself, and without them you're likely to. I disagree about markers. Just like with any fretless, in a gigging situation, you'll be glad of a couple of pencil marks if you can't hear yourself or you're jumping about. In my limited (one year) experience, a few things are worth thinking about that may go against the grain with many people. This is mostly relevant if you need to play with a band soon. 1. I've come to believe that if you need to gig the upright fairly quickly with your existing band, you will have to prioritise your efforts. The bow will slow you up seriously. I gave up on the bow to concentrate on getting gig-ready, and that's been working for me. If you do that though, you have to be very sure of technique so you're not building up bad habits. You need to pay a lot of attention to intonation too, but passing on the bow for a while will not make you play out of tune. If you play fretless already, you have a head start in that your ears probably work. 2. Again, if you have a band, and depending on the kind of music, you may find your right hand is a bigger problem that your left in terms of speed and blisters. The Rufus Reid book is the best I've found so far for getting the right hand sorted at the very beginning (and it helps to get your reading going too as it starts work on open strings only. Add the Ed Friedland Jazz DVD section on right hand technique and you won't go wrong. 3. If you play fretless bass already and you use a pivoting thumb technique, follow Rabbath rather than Simandl. It makes more sense anyway, but the problem with the Rabbath method so far is poor quality teaching materials. I mean, what is it about this instrument that means the standard method and text (Simandl) is over a century old and makes little musical sense, and nobody so far has produced a decent tutor on the alternative, Rabbath? For sure though, you'll find that for a fretless bass player, Rabbath is completely natural and you'll be able to play more or less straight away and pretty well in tune. If anything could have made me give up the instrument altogether, it was Simandl. Fine if you're 10 years old and mean to play in an orchestra in five years time. What we need is an upright bass tutor for electric bass players. All the above is imo, of course, and I'm probably going to get murdered for this. But frankly, I've only been making progress since I started thinking for myself. /now climbs into bunker and puts tin hat on/ PS. Best advice I ever saw on here about upright was to play the thing every day, even if it's only for 15mins. Make it part of your life. It works .

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You'll see a central hole that takes a long screw (not supplied) that would screw into the end of the fingerboard. The two little threaded stud thingies would be fitted either side of the central screw to stop the whole thing revolving. Again, holes have to be drilled. I didn't fancy trying to drill holes in the fingerboard, so i used sticky velcro and bound it up with electrical tape. It was ok, but not the best. I then got my luthier to mount the thing properly, and it's sooo neat. Unfortunately the pup doesn't (or didn't for me) come with a jack socket, so you have to cobble something together yourself. Great pickup, pity about the lack of thought about the connection side of things.

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