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[quote name='parker_muse' post='1124087' date='Feb 11 2011, 05:21 PM']You cheeky begger! I'll have a peek.[/quote] Moi? Cheeky begger? You must be thinking of someone else...

[quote name='parker_muse' post='1124077' date='Feb 11 2011, 05:14 PM']I was thinking perhaps getting an active bass to replace the Westone - i could control the EQ from the bass and keep the trace flat with a touch of preshape (it really sings set up like this). The ATK can go from phatness to punchy clang... that could work.[/quote] The westone thunder mentioned above is for sale...

I've used my westone thunder 1A for my brief tenure in a Studio One-style ska and raggae band. I used to enage the active circuit, roll the boost all the way to the bass freq and roll the tone off, and I could get absolute monster bassy and clear tone. And that was with some old roundwounds (some thick DR, forgot which)

I know I've changed amps a few times in the past few months, but only because I was looking for something and what I had didn't have it. You, on the other hand, seem quite happy with the setup you've got, why change it? TC stuff doesn't sound like markbass at all, so you're in for a bit of a shock methinks. Markbass seem to have a pronounced sound that can be perceived as fat and rounded, which seems to suit you fine. To my ears the TC amps have more of an aggressive edge and more versatility, are you sure that's what you're after? If you still decide to get a tc amp, you can approach it in two ways: if I wanted to dip a toe, I'd go for one of the new BH500 heads. Bigger than the classic and RH, but sounds quite similar, to my ears. It's quite bulky, but it's also relatively cheap. If space wasn't an issue, i'd go for that over the classic 450. Otherwise you've already decided that you want a tc amp, and then i'd get the RH450. It's got loads of controls, presets memory and other bells and whistles. It sounds possibly very slightly more refined, but in a way that you won't hear in a live situation IMO. The versatility will help getting your sound, but if you're going to recreate the sound of markbass, then you're better off with markbass

[quote name='alexclaber' post='1122435' date='Feb 10 2011, 11:02 AM']I was thinking you could swap between using the Orange the normal way and preamp-bypassed depending on the gig and the bass. Have you tried using the Puma as the preamp and Orange as power amp?[/quote] No, i'm trying that combination tomorrow night at the practice room. I'll report back

[quote name='alexclaber' post='1122399' date='Feb 10 2011, 10:18 AM']Can you just use the Orange's power amp and bypass its preamp by running your bass into a preamp pedal and then that into the FX return?[/quote] I could, but in that case wouldn't I be (financially) better off with just a good power amp and a pre? I was hoping to preserve some of the tonal quality of the Orange's preamp, particularly the old fashioned OD, with added control on overall tone. Or maybe I should look for something that does that tone better for me. I am thinking back to the TC RH450, which would work very well with the TC cab i'm using now...

That's sound advice, but i'm not quite decided yet. I'll play another gig on the orange on saturday, and then decide. I'm sure there will be plenty of takers for either

I'm in the lucky situation of owning both a tecamp puma 350 and an orange TB, but neither is able to do what I want on their own. The tecamp has all the tonal versatility I like in amp, given that I like to play different basses with different chracteristics. It lacks a bit of power when used with a single 8 ohm cab, and doesn't do any form of mild grit, dirt, or touch-contrallable OD (to my ears). The orange has what the tecamp lacks, i.e. power at all impedances and grit and valve OD, but it's got one sound only. The base sound is very dark, and it doesn't go well with some of my favourite basses, like the T40 or the Ned Callan. How well do you think the orange will respond to an eq or tone shaping pedal in the fx loop, or alternatively how useful would a valve OD pedal or pre work with the tecamp?

Hoochie Coochie man High Heeled Sneakers

My old trusty ibanez SR800LE had the same strings on between circa 1992 and 2009, but I gigged and practiced with it heavily only until 2001. i have no idea what they were, but I have the distinctive impresion they were a mismatched set anyway. Skint young man had no money for new strings!

[quote name='algmusic' post='1115083' date='Feb 4 2011, 11:20 AM']Try it with some other cabs.. everyone has a different take on it. Th orange cabs for me work and with jazz I use the bridge pup for groove and the front pup for a warmer rocky sound[/quote] My main gigging cab is the TC electronic RS212, but I need to shut the tweeter off, it seems to really dislike the when when it overdrives. That's physics, and it can't be helped really... The amp sounded very good through an aguilar 4x10, and even the ashdown 4x10 was doing a sterling job there. Boomy cabs are bad, I suspect, given the amount of low end this guy gives out!

After all i've said in here, I ended up buying one. The valve head I was after sold before I could get the money together, so I ended up buying this. It's good, and it really shines when you drive it a bit. Also, not everything sounds good through it. I used it at the weekend with the old Ned Callan, and it wasn't great. Yesterday at practice i used it with the peavey T40, and it was better. I had to fiddle extensively with the controls on the amp and on the bass (there's lots of sound variations on the T40), but I got a good sound in the end. Again, best results were to be had on slightly driven sound, where you can control grit and warmth and smoothness with your touch. I'm going to keep it for now, but I'm not selling the tecamp yet

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1113956' date='Feb 3 2011, 03:06 PM']All this does prove something, doesn't it? I am not altogehter sure what but something. I would surmise that this confirms that, when all is said and done, the music is bigger than the gear we play it on. We all obsess about the nuts and bolts of the gear; which wood, which era at Fender, hand made or machine, passive or active etc. But, when you throw in the individual player, personal taste and preferences, personal skills and talent, strings, pick ups, effects pedals, amps, speakers, cables, different mics and DI boxes, a studio engineer, a desk, various monitor speakers, the cutting or copying processes, the hi fi we play stuff on, the venue we see bands at, the live mixing engineer, the size of the audience and on and on and on we are left with the fact that the bass that is played is about 1% of the overall effect achieved. One of the things that YouTube has taught me is that the ability to buy a Fodera/Alembic/any other top brand does not turn a crap palyer into a good one. It also means that a good player who can only afford a cheap bass is still a contender. My kid brother owns a Harley shop in Chepstow and tells me that the motorcycle world is very similar. Most of the people who can afford an 'off the peg' Harley are middle aged 'mid-life crisis' cases who are attracted to the glamour of the brand. Is it the same for top end basses?[/quote] Seems to be that way for certain brands, especially guitars IMO. I will stick my neck out and say that Gibson are top offenders in this. The mid-life crisis market is a very lucrative one, especially for aspirational items such as motorbikes, sport cars, and musical instruments (rock and roll ones, can't see anyone splash out on a top of the range flame maple veneered bassoon to cure their crisis). People are cashing in on that!

[quote name='elephantstone' post='1113684' date='Feb 3 2011, 11:47 AM']thanks man, just needed to check. so my amp has two 8 ohm outputs on the back so i just connect each 8ohm cab into these outputs to get 4ohms or daisychain just the 2 cabs together? thanks for your time ES[/quote] Either will work and give you 4 ohms