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[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1403787903' post='2486377'] Then why are they there? And does your Limelight bass have one? [/quote] 'cos it was there when I bought it. Is this a trick question?

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1403787654' post='2486364'] Why do they have a Fender logo on the headstock? Is it really so important? [/quote] For me? No.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403785805' post='2486318'] This is getting silly. I can see people falling out over this, and it really isn't worth it! [/quote] I'm not falling out with anyone.. I'm just correcting where I have been misunderstood.

Hmm. [quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403784583' post='2486294'] If you own one and are happy with it, then that's cool - but why should that stop others discussing what they see as a potential issue and something that they feel uneasy about? [/quote] When have I suggested people stop talking about this? Even when it started to take over my NBD thread I let it go. I simply pointed out that it's a shame the usual tired argument seems to be overshadowing what's on offer, and I suppose extended discussion like this could possibly lead to it being withdrawn, which IMO would be a bit of a head-shaker and a win for no-one.

[quote name='Wooks79' timestamp='1403780889' post='2486211'] Just a quick question - ball park estimate, what's the cost on these limelights that everyone has? [/quote] Knock yersel' oot: http://www.classicandcoolguitars.co.uk/basses.htm

I don't think there's grounds to delete it. But, I do think it's a shame that rather than discussing an exciting new-ish supplier of very nice basses for reasonable money, so much of the conversation has focussed on recycling the bleedin' obvious. Especially as no money has changed hands on the understanding that these are anything other than Limelight basses. But, c'est la vie.

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1403771637' post='2486049'] I thought that was the body, neck too? [/quote] No, you're absolutely right - it's the bodies. I haven't quite woken up yet. Not sure about the neck.

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1403771028' post='2486033'] I'm interested in the neck, Allparts do you think? [/quote] Made in Scotland, apparently.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1403769126' post='2485993'] [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Don't think that's true any longer. [url="http://www.jemsite.com/forums/f13/big-news-fender-loses-trademark-case-88745.html"]http://www.jemsite.c...case-88745.html[/url][/font] [/quote] I might be wrong (it frequently happens) but I think that ruling applies only to body shape. The headstock shape is still Fender's.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403766626' post='2485964'] I think it will only be a matter of time before Mark's operation appears on Fender's radar. After all, this forum has quite a significant readership in the US and some of those guys are very nationalistic... In their eyes, a small UK builder "ripping off" their iconic US brand would be unforgivable. [/quote] FWIW, I posted a thread on TB and it was very well received. But yes, I suppose there's always they chance someone out there will raise a red flag and spoil the fun.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403696377' post='2485361'] But what is the target market?[list] [*]People who would love a vintage Fender but can't afford one or can't justify the expense? [*]People who want [b][i]others[/i][/b] to think that they [i][b]can[/b][/i] afford a vintage Fender? [*]People who own a vintage Fender (or more than one) but would rather not gig them in public due to concerns about damage or theft? [/list] [/quote] You forgot:[list] [*]People who want a bass in that particular colour scheme, with that particular spec, and don't really go for shiny instruments. [/list] And:[list] [*]People who've played one, and bought it 'cos it was nice. [/list] I'd fall into the latter category, BTW.

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403690046' post='2485247'] Some people get on their high horses about "fake" vintage Fenders on sites like Ebay and Gumtree - whereas on this thread some of those same people seem to have no problem with a range of basses that are trying very hard to look like vintage Fenders, but aren't. I think there is a bit of irony there. Maybe you don't - but that's cool. [/quote] You're quite right - there are a lot of fakes about, and selling them as legit is a bad thing. Thankfully, none of that is going on here.

Seriously, I'm looking forward to the reports, Discreet...

But what about this? Hmmm? Eh?

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403680499' post='2485123'] Not many audience members (or even fellow bass players) look at the [i][b]back[/b][/i] of the headstock... [/quote] And even less of them care

[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1403616003' post='2484517'] Hey Wot, did you have the JO flats you used here anyway as I've just been looking at the Lakland website and it seems they just sell GHS Precision Flats now. Normal gauge. Shame as I wanted to try the custom JO gauge at some point. [/quote] Gah! You're right... I wonder what the story is there? Maybe they're just GHS Precision flats in disguise anyway? I shall find out... I hope they haven't changed. Luckily I have a stockpile...

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1403605177' post='2484301'] I'm confused... (it doesn't take much, I realise!). Is that a Fender, relicked by Limelight or a Limelight J bass with a snidey Fender decal? If it is the latter, isn't that a tiny bit naughty? [/quote] It's the latter, and... probably. It's a great bass though, so I'm not going to grumble. FWIW, they have a geet big 'Limelight' scribble and serial number on the back of the headstock, which the previous owner of this bass seems to have removed. If it were mine, I'd have left it on there. Also, I have no idea what's under the pickguard or in the neck pocket. Maybe there's something else under there.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1403605259' post='2484302'] That assumes you think the band were great, I didn't. [/quote] Of course - I was just outlining how I personally define 'great'.

Would another bass player have made the songs better than they are? IMO no. He got it exactly right - that's what makes him a great bass player. Not because his lines leap out of the speakers and slap you in the face.

Just in case we forget why we're here....

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1403544101' post='2483766'] Perhaps they are aware of it but are prepared to accept it, giving that Clapton along with other English artists helped to bring blues to a larger (white audience). It still does not reduce the cringe factor though. [/quote] I doubt Willie Weeks,and Nathan East are short of a gig, but they seem to be happy to play with him.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1403543689' post='2483762'] Wonder if they'd be as happy if they knew of his sentiments ? [/quote] I'm sure they are aware of it - the event concerned isn't exactly hidden under a rug.

The band were very lucky to have him. He gave them an R'n'B / soul grounding that forms an essential part of the Queen mix. They could have easily had a Chris Squire or someone like that, and that would have been a shame.

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1403539414' post='2483709'] Seemingly when later challenged about his remarks, he refused to take them back. [/quote] Have you got a source for that?

[quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1403515946' post='2483339'] That's how I interpreted the report. [/quote] Plus, we have no idea what was going on in his IEMs. It could have been something unbearable.