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[quote name='rushbo' timestamp='1440769572' post='2853709'] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]There is some truth in the observation that most popular Music owes a debt to The Beatles. What we often overlook is that they were just one of many bands working in a similar musical area in the UK at the time. With Rock and Roll being pretty much dead in the US in the early sixties, bands in Britain responded to the fading echo of that music and made it their own. Often by playing it slightly wrong on inferior (or homemade) instruments. We also had Skiffle, which tends to be forgotten, but that had a massive influence on late 50’s youth over here and put guitars in the hands of thousands of would-be Lonnie Donegan’s. If The Beatles hadn’t made it, who’s to say that The Animals, the Kinks, the Yardbirds or The Rolling Stones would have become the defining band of that era? [/color][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]Because of the speed that Pop Culture moves at, it is pointless to insist to a guy in a Death Metal band that he owes everything to George Harrison. He will counter that he gets his style from Synyster Gates, who got it from Dimebag Darrell, who got it from Eddie Van Halen, who got it from Jimmy Page who got some of it from Harrison, but a lot of it from Lonnie Donegan and James Burton. [/color][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]50 years is a long time in Pop. The Beatles were a massive influence, but that has dissipated somewhat – it permeates most western Pop, but with every passing year and every new sub-sub genre, the degrees of separation increase. To say that “you don’t get it because you weren’t there” smacks of arrogance. I wasn’t around for when Leo Fender and Les Paul created their prototype electric guitars, but I know how important their work was. I sympathise with OP as I’m a massive Beatles fan (I’ve been to conventions and everything…) but 2015 is different planet to 1963. [/color][/size][/font] [/quote] Lonnie's influence can't be understated. But re: your point about another band filling the void if The Beatles hadn't made it... of course. But it's incredibly unlikely anyone would have made a crater as big as The Beatles. I'm going to say it again - the Beatles phenomenon was the result of a perfect storm, unlikely to be repeated.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1440706247' post='2853207'] I you weren't there it would be very difficult to be a fan. Blue [/quote] Is this what you meant to say...?

[quote name='Marvin' timestamp='1440672208' post='2852815'] There were very few bands that I listened to, when first getting serious about music, that took much, if anything, from the Beatles. In my formative years I started by listening to 50's rock'n'roll and stuff Teddy boys would have listened to. From that I went to blues and r&b and from there to punk. [/quote] Punk? Snappy, high-energy songs played at breakneck pace in packed, grubby venues by amphetamine-fuelled kids. That sounds strangely familiar :-)

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1440517594' post='2851474'] Initially, but then it was shipments of American music post-war to those GIs where McCartney said he first got to hear the likes of Arthur Alexander. It was the GIs who spread Jazz, Blues and RnB, bringing Black music to white audiences which opened the door to the Beatles with their new take on this sound. OK, it may not have been so instant but it may well have been equally, or even more significant. [/quote] Of course, but those TV appearances put the whole of a nation in a room together, across generations. That's a huge event, and part of why it had such a profound effect on so many people. Nothing else like it.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1440515205' post='2851435'] Funny, was thinking about this thread last night whilst reading a few pages of Andrew Marr's A History of Britain in the 20th Century. There could be an argument for the GIs landing in the UK bringing about a larger cultural change than anything that has come since. [/quote] Initially localised around the bases. The Beatles got off the plane and within hours had played to pretty much the whole population.

I only have video archives, anecdotes, books and the music to base it on, but I really can't think of a culture shock comparable to the Beatles getting off that plane in 1963. I don't think anything comes close.

There were some terrible 'bursts around that time (assuming it's original).

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[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1440359796' post='2850112'] It has always bothered me why Capitol Records in the USA put 'RECORDED IN ENGLAND' on Beatles singles. I know that the Americans had better recording techniques than backward Britain, but surely does it really matter where it was recorded? The Stones recorded a lot of stuff in the US in the 60's, but it never had RECORDED IN THE USA on the label!! [/quote] I think you need to find something else to be angry about

Palm muting works for me on a lot of acoustic stuff.

[quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1439929104' post='2846893'] That sounds great, which flats are those? [/quote] Cheers! Laklands. Love 'em.

My 8.8lbs Precisions used to bother me after two 45m sets. Now I've got something that weights 7.2lbs and I haven't flinched since.

Here's an updated shot with the new bass in situ... TKS Engineering, MESA and Maruszczyk:

[quote name='miles'tone' timestamp='1439905140' post='2846633'] Yep. Got so much GAS still for an unlined fretless P since I discovered the YouTube vids of yours WOT, so much that I'm going to get an ebony board fitted on my Squier P5... Crazy? Who cares! (all your fault though ) [/quote] Mwahahahahahaaaaaaa

I had a couple of the bigger ones back in the day. I never quite got on with the sound - they were both a bit scooped to my ears - and the build quality of the second cab left a lot to be desired. Although I never tried one, the smaller cabs (1210 and 1212) got a lot of praise.

[i]'What if?'[/i] - fuelling GAS since time immemorial.

[quote name='TheButler' timestamp='1439757485' post='2845578'] To what extent do you think you're a trend setter? Much power to install GAS comes from being a highly regarded and respected forum regular. [/quote] I'm not a trendsetter. I just like finding out about great stuff that's a bit off-the-radar (Limelight, Maruszczyk, TKS). And then I enthuse about it (or not, if I don't like it).

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1439750297' post='2845482'] Do you remember a few years ago there were always adverts up on eBay for what alluded to be parts of 'Signature' branded basses...generally Jazz and Precision parts. I had a brief exchange with Dudepit/Steve Barr who said the original run of Signature guitars had some financial backing (in a small way) from Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee, but the company went bust leaving a flood of parts finding their way onto eBay. I had no reason to doubt this. Why do I mention this? Rush have a song called Limelight. [/quote] Yep - Alex plays one of those Signatures on the Hold Your Fire tour. The Signature parts that appeared on Ebay were nowt to do with those, though. It was just a bit of creative marketing..

[quote name='NancyJohnson' timestamp='1439749248' post='2845469'] While I've now intention of buying one, this has crossed my mind as well. [/quote] I think the necks are Allparts. The rest.. I dunno. None of if felt cheap, though.

[quote name='JapanAxe' timestamp='1439742824' post='2845399'] Is that bench an original 60s model or a modern relic'd version? [/quote] That you have to ask suggests the relic'ing is a pretty good job :-)

[quote name='LayDownThaFunk' timestamp='1439741714' post='2845387'] If you ask. [/quote] Really? They could build something like this for less than 900 quid?

ACG do fairly trad looking Fender shapes?

The thing with Limelight is that they're meeting a demand in the marketplace. If you want a certain-spec bass, with a particular level of relic'ing that appeals to you, for a reasonable price, there's just nowhere else to go. As for Marusczcyk, I just find them remarkable. If there's another builder who can compete with them, I don't know who they are.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1439715539' post='2845116'] The reasons for selling on may be GAS, as there`s always a better bass round the corner waiting to be bought, or that people find that no matter how much they like them, they`re not Fenders. Don`t know about that last part for anyone else, but that`s what would be going round in my head. [/quote] In my case, it was pivotal in making me realise Fenders aren't the be-all and end-all.

[quote name='DarkHeart' timestamp='1439677079' post='2844986'] so why sell it? im sorry but this is the bit i dont get [/quote] It's all in the Limelight threads if you do a search. I was on the hunt for an old P. I happened across a Limelight J, and it was marvellous, so I bought it. I was so impressed, I really wanted a P, so I sold it to pay for one. In the meantime, I got a chance to spec my dream bass from another builder at a price I could afford, so I did that instead. If Limelight did P's to the exact spec I wanted, I'd probably have a couple of 'em now. As I don't own one, and I don't have one to sell, I don't need to be a fanboi. Quite simple"y, they're just excellent basses for great prices, and it's nice to have 'em out there on the market.