EssentialTension

You can play fretless in any genre.

Thank you all.

[quote name='BILL POSTERS' timestamp='1420581514' post='2651021'] [b][size=6]HAPPY BIRTHDAY[/size][/b] [/quote] Thank you.

It's my 63rd birthday today but no gig until March 7th and that's at a 70th birthday party and we will be playing a full set of Dylan songs.

Curry and beer is fine but chair and agenda are necessary.

Accidental post - damned iPhone.

I guess $180.

[quote name='cybertect' timestamp='1420407734' post='2649117'] After enjoying using Chromes on my fretless VM Jazz and hearing great things about TI flats, I've been eyeing TIs for a possible tryout on my Sabre As I'm often/usually playing tuned a semitone flat, the tension thing I've heard about them makes me wonder if I'd be better off sticking with Chromes, though. Are they really a [i]lot[/i] looser? [/quote] No telling for you without trying them, but if I was tuning down then I wouldn't buy TI Flats.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1420408111' post='2649128'] ... And was i misunderstanding you! [/quote] Well maybe I am misunderstanding you but, either way, I don't see the position I and others were taking as being at all childish. I think it's eminently sensible and adult.

I can't quite believe that it is not fake.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1420398055' post='2648900'] ... Any kid can play covers, can't they? [/quote] I thought it was the other way around. Anyone can play originals - rubbish ones perhaps but anyone can do it.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1420405262' post='2649064'] That's isn't not doing a song just because someone doesn't like it. Isn't the thing you said pretty much the same thing i said in the middle of that quote, or am i misunderstanding your post! [/quote] Nowhere did I say we don't do songs 'just because someone doesn't like it'. There's a process with both originals and with covers but, in the end, if someone is not satisfied for whatever reason, then we don't go ahead - all-for-one and one-for-all. If someone were to be so childish as to go 'Na na I'm not doing that' then they wouldn't be with us for long.

[quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1420396364' post='2648864'] That's a load of bollocks about if one person doesn't agree then you don't do it! Grow up, it's just a song. It's not like you're asking them to be injected with ebola. In our band if someone suggests something we learn it. We see if it works well to decide whether we keep it. I find it incredibly pathetic when people won't play songs cos they don't like them or the band. Childish! [/quote] It's actually more like having a grown up discussion, trying out the song, having a further grown up discussion, and having a vote if necessary. It's wholly the opposite of childish. We did once experience a childish person but they are no longer with us.

Wow!

Prototype only ..... [url="https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4UYae_hOlHIC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=fender+lead+bass&source=bl&ots=kRwj6op_to&sig=i1EAkZPfAJAKqNepkj0U5fJNkUA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=u22pVM3fLMX6UIeogbgL&ved=0CDwQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=fender%20lead%20bass&f=false"]https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4UYae_hOlHIC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=fender+lead+bass&source=bl&ots=kRwj6op_to&sig=i1EAkZPfAJAKqNepkj0U5fJNkUA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=u22pVM3fLMX6UIeogbgL&ved=0CDwQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=fender%20lead%20bass&f=false[/url]

On the Carpenters' recordings the bass is sometimes Joe Osborn who is also said to have discovered them.

[quote name='Shaggy' timestamp='1420376507' post='2648514'] Been a few good music programmes on BBC4 this Xmas / New Year - particularly enjoyed The Clash 1977 New Year gig documentary (being the year I started on bass as a young punk.......) One of my "guilty pleasures" has always been the Carpenters, so caught "Carpenters at the BBC" the other night on BBC4, think it's on again late tonight I was struck by the bass playing (Wes Jacobs as far as I can tell via Google?) - very simple, but melodic and beautifully complementing the music - often not easy in bands where the keyboard is so dominant. Anyone who saw it know what bass he was playing? - a thinline semi-acoustic that looked like a Gretsch of some sort. Really nice tone. [/quote] No need for guilt and it's definitely a Gretsch.

Same here, everyone must agree happily or the song is forgotten. The same goes for originals as well as covers; we don't treat them differently. The only time I would expect any different to this is if there was a band leader and we were all doing as we were told ... and if you don't like it you can leave.

http://youtu.be/pdcccPlz_Xo

[quote name='Geek99' timestamp='1420357305' post='2648307'] Think that's Bob Babbitt actually [/quote] ... or maybe Tony Newton actually.

[quote name='Dan Dare' timestamp='1420321258' post='2648126'] Tears of a Clown was the one that did it for me. Genius. [/quote] In the case of Tears of a Clown, there has been some dispute as to who played bass. There is also more than one version of that song. Whether this is correct I don't know but it's often said that: First version, LP version which became UK single is Tony Newton on bass. Second version, which became US single is Bob Babbitt on bass. Either way it's great.

[quote name='cybertect' timestamp='1420148793' post='2646195'] ... Stills shot for a Swedish TV show on Wikipedia appears to be the same [url="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Mud_-_TopPop_February_1974_04.png"]http://upload.wikime...ary_1974_04.png[/url] [/quote] That one looks like a different bass - as said above, it has a pre-1969 headstock logo.

Here's a better view of the string spacing with regard to pole-piece spacing. I have seen worse, although the string spacing does not appear even. The bridge looks like a Bass VI replacement bridge.

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