Downunderwonder

There is an intermediate zone where you can play what you hear in your head. I am not quite there but further than most I think. It comes from jumping in the deep end being house bassist for a whole lot of 'bar party jams' and playing a shed load of arpeggios in all keys on the violin in a previous life.

One could also argue that the price of used ones goes some way to underpinning the price of the new ones. Same with crazy high priced Fender Custom Shop offerings.

You'll get way more volume from a 2nd cab with that amp than you would from trying to squeeze every last bit out of the one cab with a bigger amp.

While a lot of smoke isn't necessarily doom, the situation with the agent would put it in the too hard basket for me. Plenty of mini amps could be strapped on to replace the burned up original.

I'd be surprised if there wasn't a pukka matching 210 for the combo seeing it comes with extension jack and a mess of wattage.

Sign writing vinyl may be available in Tortishell if you ask at a sign shop.

Almost true. Stacks of rack gear are vulnerable to one unit pushing while the others pull and recycling occurs.

B for B. 0 for the lowest one. Not sure about the 2H but I believe he's talking about 2nd Harmonic, of something.

You're not telling me anything I don't know. I would have said if they were ported. The cabs were subjected to over excursion somehow. Lots of power applied to too low of a range of frequencies, innit?!!!

You are going around in circles. I said sealed cabs were blown up by too much low end. You claimed nonsense yet offered no other possibility.

How else do you crease drivers in a sealed cab?

It's all in the archives of talkbass. 810's were being blown up left and right for a few years with creased cones from over excursions. The only way you can do that is with way too much power too low.

Some amps do that and more but then they tell you it's 1000w when it's really 200 and change. You need to have a play sending low volume sines from your phone to your cab. Keep the voltage constant and small or you will hurt things. If you send just enough to get a clearly audible 160hz then change only the frequency to 80 hz it will probably drop off a little in volume. Then it will fall right away at 40hz and vanish at 30hz. I did all that with my Trace cab and got a helluva fright. I turned it up enough to hear what I thought was 30hz. I changed to 60hz and about jumped out of my skin with the racket that sounded curiously the same as the '30hz' I had just 'not heard', it was distortion overtones of 30hz. The power of the sine signal is independent of the frequency but our ears are less sensitive down low. Look up Fletcher Munson curves of equal loudness. Cab response massively worse watt for watt also. To reproduce one cycle the speaker cone must fly further as frequency decreases, or else slower. Hence big power and tough speakers are needed to get really low heard. The tougher you make the speaker the more it costs and the less well it works in the more interesting frequencies. Traditionally we made music with cabs that were ok to very good at 80hz and up with 4 string basses. Then came wide use of 5 strings and whole lot of marketing baloney. The thump you feel in your chest when big systems are pumping you full of bass? Centered at 80hz. Bass guitar commonly highpassed at 50hz or more.

Agedhorse can tell you tales of woe, resurrecting amps fubar'd by knockoff speakons.

Lack of market direction. GK even briefly went the other way with a '5 string' button that goosed the lows. Many a 810 was blown up by guys expecting the same B string jollies as they got with a low E. The low E they were used to hearing didn't actually have audible 40hz in it. Shoving a whole lot of 30 and 60hz at the situation only killed drivers.

There used to be the odd amp bereft of a 'rumble filter'. Not these days. Past rumble you get into stuff that could be audible if there was massive subwoofer system included. That stuff is what the Thumpinator catches. If bass EQ is boosted those frequencies can do a number on your bass cabinet. Further up it's almost a matter of taste except a whole lot of people agree that wobbly low end detracts from the overall sound. Bonus points for being able to actually use the bass knob and more for at the same time not blowing up your speaker if you want to get loud. HPF ftw.

I think it's there for the purpose of standard adherence to the 'must state a price' rule in classified offerings. What people do with it is another thing. Beats me what can be achieved by inflating a trade value, even less when it's also for sale at a lower price.

Did you get a speakon cable adapter along with?

But it needs all the other cabs and mics you like to be on standby.

If it wasn't for forum induced GAS I would still be rocking essentially the same Trace rig except in two boxes and my cab is a bit bigger. You can get much lighter stuff but you'll be hard pressed to sound any better. If it's getting too much for the deadlift you could remove the amp and put it in its own case to make it easier. Otherwise, there's loads of gear out there to try.

Depends on the speaker and the volume level. You can plug a sim in and play through a FRFR cab and get the desired tone at low stage volume, although in that case it likely wouldn't be mic'd, but the idea holds for home use and recording, without a sim you won't get the A-Z tones out of the FRFR cab and you're stuck with the tones of any other cab at the volume level you can have.

Maybe your regular week is far more scintillating than mine. I'm very happy to have a good gig and no need of duds to make me appreciative.

I only ever broke 1 string. It broke some time between last rehearsal and taking it out of the case on the stage. Playing the whole show on the upright was less than ideal.

Everyone else I ever read about only ever makes 'permanent loans' of leads to guitarists, until they break that one..... and the possessive of who is whose, standing in for Dad.

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