Beedster

That is of course the deep flaw in my argument

Absolutely, treat the room and your gear as you would instruments, get to know their strengths and weakness and learn to accommodate them. We recorded an album in what is now my eldest daughter's bedroom, a roof room like the O/P's with no chance of acoustic control. Most people who listen to the stuff we recorded there prefer it to the stuff we recorded in a professional studio, lots of imperfections, but a sense of a band in and using the space as opposed to a band controlling the space with post production ambience. I still recommend a vocal booth though

"Amazing isn't it love, a population of 8,500, and more rare Wal basses than the UK, USA and EU put together"

Happy birthday Mickey

I've done gigs where a certain % of the band thought I sucked and told me so in uncertain terms

Ah the Scottish Highlands, a geographical area recognised for the highest rate of Wal ownership per head of population worldwide. I must buy this one, I see no risks whatsoever Why have eBay not removed it, I assume the guy that made the final listing you linked must have reported it?

Agreed, it was perhaps the turning point for the thread Without that style of comment, most BC threads end up regressing to the mean, that is a balance is achieved and we all agree to a point. But as soon as someone opts for meta-comment, then the thread is always polarised and often just descends into "I'm right/you're wrong". There's just no point.

You're going to need some duvets! Some good points already. Plenty of decent recordings have been made in what would be considered very poor rooms in pure acoustic terms, but if you want to record anything acoustically in the space in question, trial and error is going to be your best bet. As above, external noise is however likely to be a challenge, so a vocal booth is a great idea, it also allows you to record a dead voice track on which you can control all acoustic effects in the mix (it's always easier to add desirable acoustic effects to a vocal than to try and hide undesirable ones). Re panels, you don't have a lot of space as it is, and you're going to need at least some of them away from walls so you might find that you do a lot of work and lose a lot of space for no real gain. You probably need to decide whether you need to control the acoustics for recording or for mixing. The latter you have a chance, the former, perhaps less so, and putting panels around a space doesn't necessarily improve things Please keep us posted, I love threads like this Chris PS it looks like your window might also act as an impromptu diffuser

That summarise my view to be honest. This is a music forum, we all care about music or we wouldn't be here. The piece in question divided opinion. But it was recorded to be placed on an internet platform on which it's going to attract comment and divide opinion, so this was not a personal performance that was being unfairly targeted. And this is the internet, not a venue, and that makes a very big difference, but it's a difference that all involved in the piece in question are no doubt aware of. My view - not shared by everyone I accept - is that the majority of real in the flesh live musical performances are intended as entertainment, whilst the majority of these types of performances on You Tube are self-promotion. There's nothing wrong with that, but in this context, our discussion arguably helped the artists/producers achieve exactly what they set out to do, get people talking about it and draw attention to them. I guess we all draw lines in different places, I saw them as fair game because of the above, whereas if for example it had been a film of something equally not to my liking that someone other than the band had recorded and uploaded - which has also happened on this forum - I'd have been less inclined to wade in with negative comment. But to me this was a very self conscious act of self promotion by all involved and is absolutely 100% open to criticism on that basis. And yes, I buy the 'it's hard for musicians at the moment' idea, but there's been some amazing music produced during lockdown, so that argument is largely a distraction.

It seemed to fit the zeitgeist back then didn’t it. Less troubled times

Likewise

It was a couple of lost days on TB that put me off every buying another Ampeg cab to be honest

That would have worked better with a smiley than a question mark, apologies if that overstepped the mark. Chris

Long way up on that horse is it Paul?

What, you mean like the handful of self appointed arbiters of other people's right to free speech on here just waiting to tear apart anyone who doesn't meet their own criteria for legitimate opinion?

Thanks Pete, hope all's well mate. I'll see if he can make any use of that. Much appreciated. Chris

That's the page before the one in the OP which is empty

Perhaps they simply don't have any in stock, tried any other categories?

I've always thought that Ampeg cabs are a bit boxy sounding, which is probably why I don't own one. Once again, we all perceive different qualities when we listen to the same thing, which is no doubt a function of all of those variables that we can't reasonably take into account when we're doing the listening. Either way, if you fancy losing a day or two out of your life you could read a few threads about the qualities of various models/versions/production runs of Ampeg cabs and realise that - if they folks there are right - there's really no such thing as the Ampeg cab sound anyway

Bill, don't hold back mate, tell us what you really think

I've asked there also, thanks for the suggestion BRX. I anticipate being able to understand about 10% of the response(s)

Thanks mate, I know there's a few folks on here who i can trust, venturing onto a new forum I suspect I'll get a load of noise. I'm going to run a few trials, bit I'm pretty confident that the above picture is more a case of the manufacturer wanting to sell what they want to sell as opposed to offering reliable advice. I assumed that because they'd placed pairs of absorbers/diffusers at reflection points for the monitors, that there might be something significant that I was missing - who knows, even a new magic bullet for acoustic treatment - but my gut feel is that in a room the size of that in the diagram you wouldn't put the diffusers where they've put them.

I'm not sure the 50 would be able to really open up a fridge?

But that's all it is. I defy even the most ardent Tech 21 fan to state that put next to an SVT and fridge in full flight - the classic Ampeg tone I guess - the Tech 21 can do the same thing. Unless it's going through an Ampeg rig of course