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Nice looking bass, I still prefer the '72s 👍

Not unlike JE's awesome Live at Leeds tone the result of having to deal with Townsend and Moon

Sad, but almost certainly true Hopefully we're going to do Rattus Norvegicus in our album band, I cannot wait to experiment, in fact (between you and me) I've booked our rehearsal room for two hours ahead of the band arriving this weekend to start experimenting, over and above some clanky rounds, a maple board Precision, and some serious digging in, my preference is to get it as much as possible from wound-up tubes as opposed to small boxes 👍

That bass line comes in like a weapon, IIRC one of the music mags at the time described it as like being attacked by a barracuda. It is sublime 🙏

Exactly, there's four possible reasons 1. Personal choice (he doesn't want to use the old tone anymore and is happy to allow sound techs to do as they will) 2. Technology (he can't get the old tone anymore because it was the result of a specific instrument and a specific speaker) 3. Human error (sound techs don't know how to get the old tone from their systems) 4. Laziness (he and the band don't really care any more) I'm guessing it must be 1, hopefully not 4, 2 is out as suggested by @Lozz196, and if it's 3 then it to a degree amounts to 4......

Sounds like they took control, which is what more bands should do 👍

Exactly, so if JJB is reading this, mate, sort your sound 👍

I agree, but..... I genuinely think that it's not done in error, it's the sound the venues aim for, and in some cases, the only sound they are equipped for (as well as no doubt cost cutting in both people doing the sound and the quality of the gear the sound is going through). So in my view it often not the sound engineers we should complain about, it's the venues. More specifically, bands whose fans complain about poor sound at venues need to either take some responsibility or should not play the venues in question in future.

The corruption of live pop/rock sound is to my mind equivalent to going to see an orchestra playing a well known symphony only to find that the midrange instruments haven't showed up, and it's all either violins/flutes/trumpets or double bass/tuba/timpani. If that happened most of your average orchestral audience would walk out and demand their money back. Pop/rock audiences just appear to put up with it

Of course And damn, you'd have thought that Rush of all people would be on top of their live sound

Stranglers without that bass tone are not Stranglers, certainly not if they're doing tracks from the first three albums which I'm guessing they are, it would be like Rush without Geddy's voice... Venues seem to want all performers/performances to conform to this audio algorithm these days, to the point that I wonder if there's anxiety among venues that any deviation from the usual thump-gap-highs model will be seen by the vast majority of punters as poor quality sound; lets's not forget that the vast majority of under 30's have only experienced relatively poor quality sound in every application from domestic audio to large-scale venues......

I have this, it's for sale but due to lack of space as opposed to lack of either quality or functionality There's a few things to say about it 1. I've had similar powered speakers before, I guess most notable the hil Jones PB-300. I've not run them side by side, but given the difference in RRP I was extremely surprised at just how good the Blackstar sounds 2. I run both active and passive basses into the input for both practice and rehearsal and it works just fine, always good to know if you're gigging it 3. It also has a passive speaker input (i.e., bypasses the power amp stage) which I've been using with my Ampeg PF-50 and it sounds absolutely lovely. 4. It looks and feels like a quality unit In short, if all Blackstar gear is as well made, as functional, and as good sounding is this unit, they're doing something right 👍

Ah, I’ve just joined the dots 👍

Sorry to hear that. Given the seller had such good feedback, did you leave feedback detailing your experience? While fraud and even disagreement are VERY rare in sales here compared to eBay/Reverb/Facebook, one problem here compared with other sites does seem to be the general reluctance of people to leave negative feedback....

Many thanks @police squad, yes but IIRC he was pretty busy/tied up last time I enquired. I'm going to try the guy who did the work in this thread, I'm hoping he can do it without it taking months 👍

Likewise, his necks are works of art 👍

Dimarzios for you mate 👍

What a great thread and what lovely work, Gary's gonna be getting a call from me re a neck I need modifying 👍

Agree 👍

That’s real wear though, not deliberate aging from new

Not just basses, also clothes, furniture, decor, even buildings. Crazy world 🤔

Agreed 👍

Ah, thanks mate 👍

Thanks, if that was for me I try not to use tabs unless I'm really stuck, I much prefer to work it out by ear 👍

We do an album gig (rehearse an album for 3-months, gig it once and once only, and move on). I have floated Rattus Norvegicus for three reasons 1. It's a f***ing awesome album 2. We have a sublimely talented keys player 3. I'm a bass player Fingers crossed on that album, but otherwise yes, @Si600 you are a lucky man 👍