TimR

[quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1365100316' post='2035412'] How does a 2x10 compare with a 4x10 on axis? Is it just more sensitivity and power handling? [/quote] In theory you'll get a boost in the lower frequencies. The frequencies affected depends on the distance between the speakers. The closer the speakers, the higher the frequency that the boost starts to have an effect.

[quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1365109419' post='2035601'] in my head i got some great moves...in reality im stuck to the spot,afraid to make mistakes!! some times i forget to breathe while playing,or if i move i cant hear my monitoring,but some of our best gigs are after i made mistakes and i dont care then!! but i cant move to far as im behind a box containing midis...im not operating them singer is! as for dressing up im up for it,i have goggles,wich im not allowed to wear...i also have a emulsion suit and face mask but the rest dont want to wear them!!,i wear black tshirt n cargo pants in black,i tried to get the others to do it but they wont one wears tees with stoopid slogans on,on stage due to the box it dont leave much room to move,but being techno rock we couls adapt a cyber kind of image,but we would be better with lights and visuals...anyone know any cheap ones? also we would like a dancer or 2 like hawkwind! [/quote] Do you like the music you play? Just move to it. You don't need killer moves, just don't stand with your feet flat on the floor. Get on the balls of your feet and this will force you to reposition your feet every few seconds. Do you make mistakes in practice? If you do, practice till you don't. If you don't, why would you make them on stage. People have come to see you, they want to be entertained, they want to be happy. No one has come to see you fail. If some have, and you make a mistake, then you've made them happy too. Why are your band mates clothes bad? Go with the flow, get your own slogan t-shirt "The singer's a w.nker" would be a good one. You can get LED effects and PAR cans that do sound to light from about £50. Have a search of the forum. Good luck, enjoy yourself, why do it otherwise?

I subscribe to the view that if you're concentrating on your playing, you haven't practiced enough.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1365064683' post='2034648'] Because it's better to have all the conversation in one place rather than many [/quote] Not when there is no conversation and it just consists of people's opinions. Maybe after 6months something should have changed. Maybe not. Even have a comment in there somewhere about disproving dispersion theory because at one gig someone on the other side of the stage couldn't hear his GUITAR. 4x10s are seriously out of date now. There are far better configurations out there.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1365013883' post='2034202'] I can't beleive there has been 18 pages of this sh*t! [/quote] Well 1 page this year. Why do people resurrect these dead threads?

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1365018873' post='2034286'] Strangely enough my "Brothers In Arms" CD has gone MiA; what makes me even more uncomfortably a typical radio 2 listener is that it was my fist bought CD . Second was a Slade US import. I'm also missing a Georgia Satellites CD which an ex bought me Haven't heard "Battleship Chains" in years come to think of it. [/quote] Brothers in Arms was the first CD. Or is that just one of those urban legends or whatever they're called? I'm trying to work out if they're the Albums that the 'Best' singles were from. From memory they played Led Zepplin - Rock and Roll, Police - We are Spirits. It's probably on Listen Again.

I have 23. I may buy some more from that list in particular Kate Bush's - The Kick Inside. I listened to sections of it in the car on my trips to the dump. They played some classic tunes (Singles) from the albums. Was quite a good run down. I suspect it is aimed at, and probably compiled by people of my age (43) and it's my station of choice.

That's crossroads! The guitarist and bassist are in the wrong band.

[quote name='White Cloud' timestamp='1364929722' post='2032914'] ... performing ... [/quote] Indeed, we have a winner.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1364922212' post='2032699'] To be perfectly honest with you , I've got a little bit too much stage prescence . I've got it even when I don't want it , like when I walk down the street or go to the supermarket . People notice me wherever I go . It gets to be a bit of a problem , especially when this stage prescence is perceived by the local constabulary as grounds to stop and search me on a regular basis . [/quote] I think that's probably more due to the fact you bear more than a passing resemblance to wee Jimi Krankee!

I think I do. I'll echo the comment it's all about confidence. I've played with a singer who hadn't gigged for a while. She said afterwards that whenever she started to get a bit nervous she would turn and look at me and see me there smiling and looking relaxed and she knew everything was going to be ok. Unfortunately the two guys on the other side of the stage still look petrified, go stiff, stare at their fretboards or music and start making mistakes as soon as anyone as much as looks at us.

[quote name='The Hat' timestamp='1364760786' post='2030631'] I love most kinds of music but the reason I'm attracted to bass is that I love 70's funk, Jamiraqui, and my Norman Watt Roy and Ian Dury and the Blockheads. I've probably picked the hardest types to get into aint I ! [/quote] Yes. But you'll struggle to find musicians who want to play that type of music at beginner level. I was in a band before I could play bass. The guitarist taught me as we went along. He would show me what notes to play. We started with simple single 8th note rock tunes. We did our first gig at my mates party after about 6 weeks. Just pick some simple tunes from YouTube to start with. Learn them and look for some beginners. Good luck.

[quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1364256915' post='2024085'] That's correct, 2 fingers! SO much easier with 3 though! [/quote] He also has plenty of amplification and a very light touch.

What frustrates me in life and bass playing is that I'm fickle and hate routine. Some things I do stick to a routine - getting up and going to work, running on Wed, Fri and Sun. But that's more because I have to. My work isn't routine I'm reactive to changing situations. So music wise I'll join a band and immerse myself in learning all the material. I'll get really good. I'll do a few gigs then... There's hundreds of thousands of tunes out there. Gigging bands play 12 of them plus a few others. The audience want that but I would like to play 3 or 4 new tunes each gig and have a high turnover of tunes. I can do that but finding a band of others who want to do that, are flexible in their choices and willing to play tunes that they don't particularly like for a couple of gigs because their choices will get played is kind of frustrating.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1364150334' post='2022558'] That's online though, none in the laminated book of dreams! [/quote] Everything's online nowadays. If you know where to look, you don't even need to use the ladies underwear section anymore.

And relax... http://www.argos.co.uk/m/static/Search/searchTerms/BASS.htm

Regards setlist order. Pick an order and do couple of 'dress' rehearsals. ie play your songs in order as if it were a gig. You'll get a good feel as to whether songs sit well together. Regards 12 bar blues. They're usually fairly tedious and the way to lift them is to build from start to finish. Start the song with a simple bass and gradually add in breaks until the final chorus where you (and the rest of the band) pull out all the stops. Although don't over-do it.

Listen to the track. Moderately fast probably refers to the vocal and the 192 to the instrumental part. Unless moderately fast and 192 refer to the same passage, without seeing it it's difficult to understand.

I've only just got onto a PC to check out some of these 'heaviest riffs ever'. It seems to me that for bass players and musicians there seems to be a complete lack of understanding of the term riff. It's a basic musical term we should all be familiar with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostinato#Riff Typically they're 1-8 bar phrases that repeat within the melody. That's why Sabbath et al are referenced as riff based metal. I don't think a lot of these 'heavy' examples contain any riffs, or none that I can identify. For something to be heavy or contain weight it also has to contain a lot of light or space and some syncopation so that the notes punch in all the right places. The bass and rhythm has to double or support the lead fully. Iron Man is a great example, is it the heaviest? Probably not but it has all the elements of classic riff based metal. Some of the Budgie stuff meets the criteria but not that heavy. Maybe some early Anthrax might hit the mark, anything of the Among The Living album. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pTRXboRhyI

I'm finding the older I get and the more bands I play in, the more people I meet who have played with poor to average bass players and really appreciate a good bass player. These are musicians who will spend their time auditioning, give you the time and information you need and will know by the time you've reached the first chorus of the first song whether you're going to cut it. If the rest of the band aren't smiling by the end of the first song, you're either not the one, or they don't know what they're looking for...

[quote name='Donnyboy' timestamp='1362339255' post='1998656'] I was a waitrose virgin until today. Shocker. [/quote] Nothing worse than getting taken up the cold aisle.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1362328238' post='1998422'] That's Lidl behaviour , Dave . I got most of my male escort work from women who frequent Waitrose - I can't afford [i]not [/i]to shop there . [/quote] My wife shops at Waitrose. I thought she was getting through the housekeeping money quickly!

Sounds more like self-destruction mode. He needs to up his game then not resort to blackmail.

Indeed. I'm sure that what most audience members hear in their heads is not what we're playing. In fact I'm fairly confident that even what our guitarist hears in his head is not what he is playing.

[quote name='warwickhunt' timestamp='1362237955' post='1997400'] The pub pays us direct (cash) and we forward £30 of the £250 to the agent. It'd be guess work as to why the agent/venue have ceased to want to deal with each other but it could be that the venue have considered paying venues 10% less and thus they are making a direct saving. [/quote] Well £30 of £250 is 12% and £30 of £220 is 13.6%. At least you know exactly what the pub are prepared to pay and possibly the pub don't know how much of a cut he is getting and may assume he's taking more. If he's fallen out with one pub that's not your problem. I would approach the other pubs and see if they're willing to go without the middle man first then make your call. If they're happy to go with you direct as they've seen you play and know what pull you have then you don't have any decision to make. I think the two reasons for the pub to go with an agent are 1) The agent can vet the bands and try them out in smaller venues before gambling on the better pubs. 2) if a band pulls out he probably knows enough bands that he can find someone to cover at short notice while the publican gets on with pub business. You've done 1. you just have to convince them you can do 2.