WHUFC BASS

Doesn't have to be a genuine Fender either - the Squier VMs or CVs, SX and some of the early Jap lawsuit stuff in many cases is just as good as anything Fender have done. Also, there's a considerable number of after-market parts out there too. I had one with a Kent-Armstrong Vintage Hot Ceramic pickup and it was the nuts.

I actually told him that a 78 precision was worth at least £1,000 (considering its condition) and it annoyed me the way they tried to fob him off with offering him a grand for it. To be fair, it was in pretty rough nick but from what I've seen on Ebay he would have got around a grand for it, even without the Ramones connection.

Ha ha.. that's Tel, the singer from my band. I've played that Precision and its horrible, really high action and just not set up at all. He sold it the other day at Sothebys. What he didn't tell them was the amount of people he had to kick and punch who were trying to get it off him. In his day, he was a right handful and a bit of a nutter if the truth be told.

I think I remember reading somwhere that it was a 1969 Precision but can't remember where I saw that. Best Budgie song by a mile: Unfortunate name "Burke" though...

1. Traben John Moyer - I have the 5 string version of this which is probably the best metal / punk / hardcore bass I have ever used and saw a 4-string version going cheap. I mean really cheap - £150. It's immaculate and came with straplocks and tool kit too. Sounds just like the 5-string - absoloutly huge output. The Rockfield pre-amp is easily the loudest preamp I have ever heard. Really pleased with it. 2. Franken-Jazz. This was another bargain on Ebay £175. Came with USA pickups and control plate, dodgy Fender decal, Squier body and after-market neck. One of the tuners was broken but it didn't matter as I had an old black set kicking around which I put on. Also stuck a black string retainer on there too. Although it sounded superb when I got it, I added a black Gotoh 201 bridge and a Varitone unit to it with S1 switching on it which gives it a real biting growl which really cuts through two heavily distorted chugging guitars. Not bad for the grand total of £325 (not including the Varitone unit). There's bargains to be had out there if you keep your eyes open !

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1254914' date='Jun 3 2011, 12:51 AM']He likes the Libertines, I'm out.[/quote] That was my first thought too !

Not bad - drums too high up in the mix I reckon. Bass is a bit muffled. Horns should be central in the mix - they seem to be panned a bit to the left. Apart from that, not bad!

Traben Chaos Core - 'nuff said

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1231816' date='May 15 2011, 11:56 AM']which guitar? Acoustic or Electric? The electric have 3 layer, one is left, right and centre. Acoustic just one in the middle.[/quote] Electric - and thats your problem, remove the centre track and slightly boost the left and right track. The drums should only have one centre track.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1231660' date='May 15 2011, 09:29 AM']Here is the demo of the song. [url="http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GM23AXM"]http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7GM23AXM[/url] The drum and guitar don't kick in till around 2.40 ish i think. Couldn't get the distortion guitar right. So advice on the other instrument mixing would help as well By the way the song is in chinese ........ i'm still new to all this stuff ......[/quote] Doesn't sound that bad, however it sounds like the drums have been panned left to right when they should be in the middle of the mix and the guitars should be panned but are in the middle of the mix. Swap this round and it will improve it a lot I reckon.

I'm not sure what technique all you recording enthusiasts use when mixing and mastering but I use certain songs to use as a benchmark for getting my mixes to sound right. This is usually just playing them side by side and trying to get the overall feel as close as possible to a professionally mastered song. One of the tracks I use is Hard Livin' by Vinnie Stigma of Agnostic Front. What I like about this mix (apart from the great bass sound) is the fantastic guitar sound, panned wide with the drums, vocals and bass all cutting through really nicely. There's a very good drum sound on there as well. In all I think the overall mix is perfect, no mud, no weak spots at all.

mmmmmmmmmmm..... Betty Page... mmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Drums sound much better. Guitars sound much improved but still not quite there. I would pan both guitars hard left and hard right - lay off the reverb on both, add slight delay to the tracks, add a bit more mids to one side. Definitely too much reverb on the guitar.

I think the Marshall DSL 201 or 401 would be a better option as it does both clean and distortion reasonably well.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1228792' date='May 12 2011, 01:40 PM']The panning advice is good, i will certainly try it again tonight. Maybe i hoping too much on GR4 ...... should just spend the money on a small tube guitar combo instead .......[/quote] That'd be a good start - another tip is to get a valve amp of low wattage - anything from 5w to 30w for recording. You DO NOT need masses of volume for recording and for this reason, amps have now been created to drive valves at low volumes. You'd be surprised how loud 30watts sound in a home environment. A good mic to use would be an SM57 - there are better mics out there but this would be a relatively cheap option. Placement of the mic can make a lot of difference - distance from the amp too. It really is all about experimenting and seeing what it right for you sound and songs.

[quote name='badboy1984' post='1228748' date='May 12 2011, 01:18 PM']So i guess I'm wasting my time to get it right ........ unless i buy a guitar amp and mic it up to record?[/quote] Not necessarily. But I think you may be expecting too much from a digital guitar sound. if you did mic up a decent gutiar amp I think you'd get a more authentic sound. I know thats a sweeping statement but at least you'd be starting with a better source. [quote name='51m0n' post='1228749' date='May 12 2011, 01:18 PM']I cant disagree with this enough. Har dpan the crap out of guitars, multitrack them pann half all the way left and half all the way right. Keep them the hell away from the vocal at all costs! Remember the vocal is the song, the chorus is the 'money shot'....[/quote] This is another good piece of advice. Hard panning makes the whole sound bigger and lets the vocals, bass and drums shine though - it may also fix your muddy sounding guitar tracks as well. A bit of reverb and delay (not too much) will also give the guitars a much bigger and airy feel to them (we're talking distorted gutiars here). Another really important trick i learned was to make the two tracks sound slightly different - i.e. make one side sound slightly bassier than the other side. In some scenarios it enhances the pan effect. Here's an example of heavily distorted and panned guitars. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhl3ZUxZNPQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhl3ZUxZNPQ[/url]

[quote name='Bankai' post='1228561' date='May 12 2011, 11:09 AM']Emulated distortion/overdrive on guitars is very difficult to get right.[/quote] +1000 I think amp modellers / emulated distortion / digital effect distortion just sounds terrible in 99% of cases. i went through a phase of using them until I decided to mic up my 5150. Would only use digital for the very roughest of demos - certainly never for anything else.