SpondonBassed

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1488353992' post='3248079'] Pretty sure, given the average age of the BC collective is closer to 60 than 20, that it was said ironically, in jest. [/quote] I would like to give "the boy" the benefit of doubt. I'll wait to see what his response is.

I buy my labels in Fortnum and Mason's. I have a little man who glues them to all of the products that I buy in ALDI prior to getting them out of the boot of my 2CV. S. Knob Apartment 606 Upself Towers Jaywick Nr Clacton-on-Sea [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMLXZySHt54[/media]

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1488287900' post='3247531'] Over here in the States, unfortunately everything is about "the money". Blue [/quote] I don't know how litigious American society actually is but media (mainly film and TV) tends to paint a picture of a society where lawyers are the "go to" first step in many disputes. Whether or not that is the case it seems to be going that way here. Solicitors are the only winners in any given dispute. I think greed has become a greater driving force here in the UK than ever before. Everyone wants a cut but no one wants to pay for their slice of pie. Sad.

[quote name='Muppet' timestamp='1488273946' post='3247352'] Nothing from the MU as yet - but we have emailed the promoter letting him know that we would prefer him not to publish the recordings as this may compromise our album launch. We have offered to let him use a showreel of the songs (30s or so) but that we've not granted him permission to sell them. We're trying the polite friendly approach first to see if that bears fruit. We don't want to appear heavy handed if it's not required. [/quote] I assume you have no agent other than the promoter? Well done. It ALWAYS pays to be diplomatic in the first instance. If the promoter is reasonable and you have done nothing to impede what might be a profitable solution for you [i]and[/i] the promoter then things can move forward. It might be that the promoter is in a good position to help the band grow. He'd have to respect your album release though. Talk about having your "golden goose" and eating it. Remember Daft Punk and Nile Rodgers' release of Random Access Memories was usurped. These days, even the big players have difficulty locking down the release of their product despite all the rules. If reasonable attempts have been made to negotiate an amicable settlement, as you are describing here, but the promoter is not prepared to wait or at least discuss a workable compromise then I'd say it is time to seek legal advice with a view to;[list] [*]claiming back potential loss of earnings for the band [*]seeking redress for any damage to the band's reputation as a result of an unofficial release or the perceived poor behaviour of the promoter generally [*]getting a signed agreement that the promoter will not attempt to do this again to [i]any[/i] performer that he handles [/list] If you do however, have you thought how it may affect the band and its ability to move forward? That is the crunch. You may have to let it go or run the risk of the promoter and his associates turning their back on you with regard to future bookings. The old Hollywood expression springs to mind: "I'll see to it that your boys never work in this town again!" Is he one of those? I have a nasty taste in my mouth just thinking about it. I wish you and everyone concerned a fruitful, civilised settlement. Six minutes into this moral tale there is a message relevant to your plight. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyeEvG8zqPY[/media] The author apologises unreservedly for suggesting that the band is [i]fowl[/i] or has anything to do with [i]fowl[/i] play of any description. Other opinions are available.

I'm sorry, I have to say. That was quite rude. Have I read it wrong or was it meant to be offensive?

Mine's a Metro-Tuner MT-30 made by C.Giant and purchased in an ALDI bargain bin several years ago. The photo is of one identical but for the brand name. [attachment=239339:Metro-TunerMT-30.png] It came with a clip-on transducer on a wire. I unplugged that and I don't use it. The device itself takes an output from DI, FX OUT or the dedicated tuner output on my combo. It sits where I want it on the end of a cable. I recently found a limitation. If I am playing through the house system It would require my taking a feed back from the desk. No major crisis though, I could always rig it with a splitter cable if that was a frequent occurrence.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1488318422' post='3247948'] Sorry, guys, I'll take this thread down. If I find another vid I'l try again. Blue [/quote] Why take it down my friend? All it needs is a working link. No biggie.

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I'm right handed for bass. I first played on stage with a perspex bodied, lefty strung guitar with a 2+2 wood grained headstock. I can't remember who made it, it belonged to a mate. I also used his combo, also nameless (sorry) which was solid state and DI'd to the house system. It was Dublin's city centre. It was 1986. I was stuck in a rut at work. Having done a four year apprenticeship and qualified with additional engineering licences Aer Lingus had put me into a workshop that only handled aircraft wheels and brakes. Because of an ancient union arrangement with the company there would be no prospect of getting out of the shop they put you in and working on aircraft themselves for about seven years. I looked towards coming home to England and going freelance. It was a good move in retrospect. It paid for one of my houses. Thirty years on; I am semi-retired. I have come out of a long period during which my sole occupation had been to care for my mother in her last years. Now I want to spend a lot more time with music. Although I did not make a bad decision all those years ago when I gave up the band I have a need to see where it might have gone now that I have the choice. So thirty years later I got a second start. A couple of weeks ago I set foot on stage with a Steinberger fiver plugged into a portable house rig in Derby's Horse and Groom pub. Fellow BCer PaulWarning (guitar and vox) and Wendy (drums) had kindly invited me to join them as bassist. We did three numbers that Paul had clips of himself and Wendy performing. A brief practice with those clips during the preceding week and we were good to go. In addition, Paul and I had a tune in common that we had each learned independently. We did that without rehearsal. No-one was injured in the rush to go to the bar... Good times. I'm looking forward to more.

Tease us why doncha! Hahahahahahaha. I hope you can get a good link for us though.

[quote name='hrnn1234' timestamp='1488181983' post='3246463'] This is from late 2015, when we presented our CD. I came into the band after they were finished recording so the album has no compositions of mine nor it's me playing the bass... but it's me on stage! I really like how the sound turn out. [media]http://youtu.be/PURFOZkPurw[/media] damn you, youtube link! [/quote] I got that saved no problem. The band, as a whole, looks okay man. As the clip is a medley I can't say I got much chance to "get my ear in" but then it isn't my first choice for personal listening.

Aw. I can't do FB. Any chance you can get it on YT please Blue?

[quote name='Hobbayne' timestamp='1488284354' post='3247483'] This was a big hit some 44 years ago. All done on a Moog I believe. Not a 'real instrument' to be heard. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX_lnmb1Moo[/media] [/quote] Many thanks. That's sent me back to the age of ten! Happy days.

[splutter!]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1488216401' post='3246891'] I like playing bass in a 'real' band, but anyone who says producing electronic music is in some way 'easier' or 'unreal' is talking out of their arse. [/quote] I'd like to point out that talking out of one's arse is not yet recognised as a valid way of creating speech. Do not despair. I am quite sure that words formed by educated anuses will become more widely recognised as a valid and worthy part of today's culture and that the Oxford English dictionary will happily include them on next years revision of their scratch and sniff dictionary (Chav edition).

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1488238179' post='3247210'] So, no controversy here. Epic fail on the spleen-venting front. We really must try harder [/quote] [url="http://patient.info/health/the-spleen"]http://patient.info/health/the-spleen[/url] Who's going to mop up after a serious vent with blood and yukky stuff? I'm going out right away to buy some galoshes. [attachment=239310:spleen.png]

Have I understood the issue correctly? The band has a new manager. Previously the guitarist was the band leader. The band wants to do a gig 350km away for a crowd of about five? You don't want to do it. A discussion after everyone has had time to cool down and think has been suggested by your new manager. Did the band leader (guitarist) agree? Unless I have missed something I'd agree with your new manager. The issue of commitment should be be discussed in less stressful circumstances after everyone has had time to give the proposal due consideration. You need to decide how strongly you feel about staying with the band if the band is to move forward. I hope I have not misunderstood and that you can all move forward in a workman like way. If this is the first time that you have made your feelings known to the band - good. Hopefully discussion can continue with input from ALL members under the guidance of your new manager. I wish you all success. Can you put a link here to your clip please? The band sounds interesting. Nice to hear that there are Goths in Vienna still. Midge Ure must be held partly responsible (Joking) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37w42Bfsv3E[/media]

[quote name='obbm' timestamp='1488233273' post='3247154'] I have a former band mate who now lives up near you who is involved in Open Mic/Jam nights at Marehay and Hallfieldgate. Any use to you? [/quote] Thanks Obbm, yes please. PMd.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1488232835' post='3247146'] Good! From little acorns... never too late... erm... nowt as queer as folk... um... never wipe your arse with a broken bottle. Seriously though, good luck. Playing with other people is good for the soul. So to speak. [/quote] Trust you. Cuh! Thanks my friend, for making us all smile.

Cheers my friend. That's nice of you to say.

[quote name='Cato' timestamp='1488226166' post='3247034'] Cheers for that. It 's not completely out of reach then. Something to ponder and dream about... Sorry for the thread hijack Spondon. [/quote] No apology required. Thank you anyway. I don't think mine will be a composite based one but it doesn't hurt to look at what's possible. There was a carbon Steinberger that looked similar to my wooden one. I saw a YT clip of a lad reviewing it and it looked kinda tempting. As a matter of fact that has just given me a lucid moment - first one of the New Year. I should see if I can get a go on a Steiny carbon because I own the wooden version. It should be easier to appreciate the differences in materials. I could then list the pros and cons of each material for a body shape that I am familiar with. I'll look out for the NBD post I hope you'll put up if you get yours.

I blame MTV.

[quote name='graham1945' timestamp='1488223451' post='3246988'] Thanks for all of the above. It's a gig we've done for ten years, just a pub with music, BUT with a new landlady. Cheers Graham [/quote] Is she a control freak?

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1488221715' post='3246965'] yup, sounds like arse covering going on.. [/quote] "Arse covering" - is that like wallpapering a buttock or is the landlord expecting a cover of "Arse", that classic tune from Geddy and the Glutes?

[quote name='Barking Spiders' timestamp='1488215487' post='3246879'] is a common whinge among many music fans on Internet forums viz techno, hip hop, House etc. Personally I don't care how music is made just as long as it sounds good to my ears and feet. But I've come across many posters who can get quite worked up about 'electronica' and the use of laptops sequencers, samplers etc saying these genres aren't proper music. That said a lot of so-called dance/electronica combos do use real instruments live and sometimes in the studio. Just wondrin' what basschatters think. Feel free to vent your spleen if the mood takes you [/quote] I try to avoid getting into ruts caused by conventional thinking. Sometimes however it is a comfortable option. I'm with you in that I don't care too much. If it makes my feet tap and my head sing, it's good. Bowie's Space Oddity would be compromised without the stylophone bit for example. [attachment=239294:RolfsStylophone.png] er... er... oops