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Oh Lordy, everything about that version is not so good (IMO). Nate East and Michael McDonald did a good version. The Horn arranging is excellent with some great harmony going on. http://youtu.be/5qlkWsagY6I

Voted. Well done folks.

[quote name='modelreject' timestamp='1469805184' post='3101224'] An edit of both players according to this, [url="http://soulfuldetroit.com/showthread.php?690-The-Funk-Brothers-instrumental-of-the-1970-version-of-quot-Ain-t-No-Mountain-High-Enough-quot"]http://soulfuldetroi...igh-Enough-quot[/url] [/quote] Youtube account terminated ? Not working for me. Seems to be more folks saying that she is not on that edit? [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1469801839' post='3101179'] This article is from Dr Licks, Standing In The Shadows Of Motown author. If this is true (don't know why it wouldn't be) she's got some major fantasies floating around. [url="http://chnm.gmu.edu/courses/magic/kaye/"]http://chnm.gmu.edu/...ses/magic/kaye/[/url] [/quote] I have read that article before (ages ago), but it's still an interesting read.

[quote name='Huge Hands' timestamp='1469793053' post='3101075'] From what I've read of it, the stuff that gets everyone's back up is when she claims to have done the lines he recorded in Detroit, not California. She is a fantastic bass player in her own right and massively deserves her place in history, but I don't buy half of the stuff she was claiming to have done. As much as I have some of Stuart's books and fully respect him, I have to disagree on the above, I have listened to the "isolated bass" version of Bernadette so many times and I'm convinced it is Jamerson, mainly down to the feel, rather than the notes he plays. [/quote] Generally agree. No one seems to dispute the West Coast recording claims, but up until 1966 [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]'Bernadette' ?[/font][/color] Did she ever set foot in the Snake Pit, Studio A 'Hitsville' ? If Jamerson wasn't available that day, wouldn't Babbit have been called in ? Or did Carol just happen to be in Detroit that day ? Did I read somewhere that sometimes different versions were maybe released in the UK? More possible confusion. Also back in the day, session players (real studio players, not function band deps ) got full rates for playing on demos. Demo recording was a thriving business. So it is possible she played on certain tracks as she claims, but another version made the 'final cut' ? All interesting stuff for sure, and worthy of another thread all these years later.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1469464223' post='3098529'] While fingering A minor? [/quote] Or the Trumpet player in the Army Band, double tonguing A Major.

[quote name='Dad3353' timestamp='1468936268' post='3094472'] Whilst I'm here, and able (it may not last...), here's my contribution for this month... [url="https://soundcloud.com/dad3353/worlds-apart"]Worlds Apart ...[/url] Enjoy. [/quote] Enjoyed the theme(s) and the voices supporting in the background, nice and authentic and matched the vision from the picture very well. I found the stereo Rattle Snake jumping from speaker to speaker, a tad loud. Good stuff, Dad.

[quote name='Oscar South' timestamp='1469273404' post='3097092'] Harmonics on bass sound great and there's a rich and developing heritage in their usage, so hopefully this study (much bigger than just this spreadsheet) can add a few more layers of practicality to the field. [/quote] Agree. Thanks for chart upload. I started to put together something similar a few years back, but got bored (some was stored in my head). My older boy has just started exploring the harmonic chordal possibilities and will find this very useful.

[quote name='chardbass' timestamp='1469141278' post='3096145'] re Wayne Braithwaite- heard him on Jonathan Butler's stuff in the late 80s. [/quote] He had a terrific CV, he was up there with Marcus at that time. 15 pages of recordings over at Discogs. [url="https://www.discogs.com/artist/193769-Wayne-Brathwaite?page=1"]https://www.discogs....athwaite?page=1[/url] Nice tone on this Stanley Jordan track. [media]http://youtu.be/JMf5QHbuYxA[/media]

[quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1468938760' post='3094490'] Seriously tempted by this - not for the highland pipe sounds (definitely not my cup of tea), but for the [color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Uilleann, Border and Smallpipes. I'd have to play them from a keyboard though, and that's not going to be ideal. If it was half the price, or if it included Swedish and German pipes, I'd go for it in an instant.[/font][/color] [color=#000000][font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<edited to fix random font variations>[/font][/color] [/quote] Maybe a USB MIDI breath controller ? Just the job for any VSTi wind instruments, regarding performance, expression and controlling Midi cc#'s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-U44kNtmI Review. http://bedroomproducersblog.com/2016/03/12/tecontrol-breath-controller-review/ Website: http://tecontrol.se/products/usb-midi-breath-controller#

A collection for Bass (some Gtr as well). http://www.grgr.de/index.html#ir And here for some classic reverbs, cabs and spaces. the Bricasti M7 pack is well worth downloading. Scroll down, then under 'Reverbs'. https://www.propellerheads.se/blog/free-reverb-resources-where-to-find-impulse-responses Another list of various free packs. Also a tutorial on using IR's. http://www.joshuacasper.com/max-4-live-tutorials/convolution-reverb-impulse-responses/ And some of the best IR's out there at Samplicity (free). http://www.samplicity.com/download/

A mixed bag of instruments (free). Some decent stuff. http://www.karoryfer.com/karoryfer-samples/

Oh, it's very real. https://www.facebook.com/electronicbagpipes/ Plenty of Google reviews and over at KVR Audio as well.

Core blimey, these singers, they 'ave the nerve to call themselves 'Weekend Warriors'. More Like Weekend Wendy's. You just can't get the staff these days.

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[quote name='lurksalot' timestamp='1468054797' post='3088289'] Would a pan and bag pipe duet be a travesty or a phallusy:) [/quote]

I am not sure where all this leaves Anthony Jackson. He uses a chair AND a music stand. On Big Band Charts, you don't need to turn pages. It's all so fast that you end before the page turn. Look here, AJ proves it from his chair. http://youtu.be/tZOCdrwGch4

[quote name='paul h' timestamp='1467985437' post='3087829'] Every month I fancy having a go at this but alas the creative juices are just not flowing these days Hopefully I will shake myself up and get back involved sooner rather than later [/quote] Go on...All you need is some Panpipes and a Penus this month, possibly your own ? Although Skol seems keen to help out.

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1467991534' post='3087922'] I went to see the Bootleg Beatles and they had orchestral backing, all with music stands, can't believe they needed them, it was well into the tour [/quote] The beauty of being a sight reader on shows (a regular show could be considered your 9-5 job), you can dep it out to other sight readers while you are out on a radio or TV broadcast, or a recording session, or are just bored of playing Beatles tunes for a while and fancy depping in a different Orchestra or show for a few days. You might have witnessed an Orchestra with of a lot of deps, or pick ups used in different towns that night, or the musical supervisor putting the pads out on the stands because he/she had no idea who was sitting in the Orchestra that night, or indeed that it's their job to put the music out for the performance regardless. Don't assume they are all musical numpties that 'ave no ears and can't learn a few Beatles tunes.

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1467917080' post='3087333'] So cover bands in the UK are still playing Mustang Sally? [/quote] Very good, Blue. An excellent hand grenade.

[quote name='geoffbyrne' timestamp='1467977356' post='3087734'] I played for a short time (!) with a duo of guitarists who: (1) didn't take it into account that many of the song recorded were played on instruments tuned to Eb, so the players were using chord shapes as E so they emulated the pitch no matter how weird or unlikely the difficulty of playing the chord sequence (2) both used capos. (2) they used capos on different frets so they could 'voice the chords differently' (4) at the end of the day/performance they hadn't a clue what key they were really in as an E shape at the capo was, to them, always an E, so although one was capo'd at the 4the fret it was still E etc (5) they often changed key of a number between performances as they were mates and practiced together midweek on their own (6) The key change was often a surprise to me on stage. As I said, I played with them a short time..... G. p.s. Actually, when it was all OK they actually sounded quite good [/quote] Very funny story.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1467979391' post='3087757'] Even when I play in the local orchestra I learn the tunes so I don't have to use the music. I treat it like I was in a rock band again. I never look at it during the performance, eyes on the conductor. I am often surprised that even the Grade 8 players haven't memorised them. Some of them could sight read and transpose at the same time having never seen or heard the piece before. But not remember it after a term of rehearsals. [/quote] Agreed about watching the carver. But, It's not always about knowing and learning the charts, that's the easy bit. For reference in certain situations. If there is some kind of mess up on stage or elsewhere, then the Conductor or MD shouts out 'Bar 88..1.2.3', you just do it, or pre show there is section cut (for whatever reason), pencil in the cut. No messing around looking for the music, there is no time (unless you have memorised every bar number as well) the moment has gone. The pad is mostly for reference after a while. IE, tune order etc. It's a safety net. IMHO of course. [quote name='neilp' timestamp='1467977692' post='3087738'] Oh dear. Classical orchestras need them because we can't be expected to memorise all the notes, dynamics, tempo changes etc etc that we've rehearsed. In general, orchestral music is MUCH less repetitive than what most of us play and much more difficult to learn. In general, I learn the difficult bits, and carry on reading the easy bits, even in performance. The conductor? What's he for? Imagine how hard it would be for 80 musicians to deal with all the balance, tempo and expression details (MUCH more detail than we put into our performances) without some cues and help. It's a different world, so much more detailed. [/quote] All this as well.

[quote name='sharkboy' timestamp='1467917887' post='3087343'] One of the best music lessons I had at school all those years ago was on intervals and how to recognise them by remembering which songs use them at the start (eg minor 2nd=Jaws theme, major 6th=My Bonnie Lies Over The Ocean - amazing what you remember after 35 years!) There's a good site here with more examples: [url="http://www.madelinesalocks.com/MusicalIntervalsTutor/listenpg.html"]http://www.madelines...r/listenpg.html[/url] [/quote] I really should read through a thread before I post. I posted something similar to you this morning. (#63).

First two notes of The Star Wars theme are Root (I) and Fifth (V), Same for the ET theme. Somewhere over the Rainbow, Root (I) Octave (VIII), Jaws, no need to mention that interval, unless you are tone death of course, and so on for other tunes. For me, singing tunes I was familiar with and [i]consciously[/i] learning and knowing their intervals, was key to quickly training my ear (when I was younger). No short cuts, it's just a matter of putting in the work, same as learning an instrument.

[quote name='ivansc' timestamp='1467886032' post='3086954'] I suppose because I grew up in the pre-tab/Tab/TAB world, I have never seen the point in it. A lot harder to learn and apply than standard notation for me. I have to stop and think about which string I am supposed to be hitting and THEN which fret. Almost think writing out the letters for each note would be easier to follow quickly. Can you guys seriously sight read tab? [/quote] Same here. It was dots and ears for me. What I have seen of TAB, lacks in info, regarding a performance of Rhythms and articulations. Maybe it's there and I just don't understand the way it works. But hey ho, if it works for some and helps towards the goal, good luck with it

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