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[quote name='silddx' post='904798' date='Jul 25 2010, 03:37 PM'].. then you've missed the point of music completely." [i]Scott Thunes - October 1996[/i][/quote] Go on then I'll bite. What [i]is [/i]the point of music?

forgot to add, tape your leads together every foot and a half or so. If your cables are the same colour mark one near each end, so you know which is which. Helps keep things tidy and effectively means you only have one cable to (un)pack.* [size=1]* above tip used and shamelessly stolen from Billy Sheehan.[/size]

I have a custom Shuker. I wanted various features of different basses all on the one bass along with a few ideas of my own. I'd seen Jon's previous work and seen the results on here, so I knew he could realise my vision. He did But there are various options running from starting from scratch with designs, to modifying one of his stock basses with different parts. For me it was worth it, and the price was more than reasonable. Send a few emails and make a few calls and ask a few questions.

in terms of playing style the similarities tend to be more guitary. I would say finger style is closer to classical guitar technique than DB, and picking closer to electric guitar. Slapping was done on DB before bass, perhaps slappers are the real bassists? edit. voted don't care.

[quote name='XB26354' post='901530' date='Jul 22 2010, 01:12 AM']Huh? You posed the question of "rules" in the first place, so why not answer your own questions?[/quote] Because I don't know the answer. What rules are been broken? [quote name='XB26354' post='901530' date='Jul 22 2010, 01:12 AM']There [i]are[/i] no "rules". Theory is a way to document and order sounds that occurred first in nature (eg overtone series) and later through instruments (vibrating string or column of air). The history of music is a gradual acceptance of more and more dissonance. As I see it, "rules" refers to harmony or melody rules laid down in (classical) harmony books, like not using consecutive perfect 5th or octaves. In this case even "classical" composers have broken these rules.[/quote] You are agreeing with the OP. [quote name='XB26354' post='901530' date='Jul 22 2010, 01:12 AM']So, what is the point of the topic?[/quote] Well one point could be that no-one has managed to say what rules are been broken?

[quote name='eude' post='896634' date='Jul 16 2010, 03:43 PM']Had my eye on that one on the "stock" page.[/quote] I played that a while ago. If I hadn't been picking up my own custom Shuker I would have been severely tempted. Looking good Dan, what's the string spacing on yours?

[quote name='dudewheresmybass' post='901523' date='Jul 22 2010, 01:02 AM']receiver on top of amp - 15 / 20' lead to pedal board - pedals - duplicate lead return to amp worked for me for -- years![/quote] plus the one.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='898334' date='Jul 18 2010, 07:55 PM']Or am I getting it wrong and I need to learn more theory?[/quote] Well that wouldn’t hurt any of us would it? [quote name='TKenrick' post='898859' date='Jul 19 2010, 12:57 PM']or spend my next gig playing b9s on every major chord.[/quote] if you wanted to what rule would you be breaking? [quote name='Dave Vader' post='899253' date='Jul 19 2010, 06:46 PM']While Jazz and Prog on the other hand (where they learned the rules first) are more often than not a little more interesting on the rule-breaking front.[/quote] what rules were they breaking? [quote name='Doddy' post='899264' date='Jul 19 2010, 06:55 PM']Funnily enough most 'untrained' players who think that they are breaking rules, really aren't.(See the punk comment above)[/quote] Trained or untrained this is what I’m saying, but although people are posting about rules been broken no-one has said what any of them are.

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='898306' date='Jul 18 2010, 07:21 PM']What music theory can do is give you an understanding of it all.[/quote] Too subtle? I’m actually an advocate of people learning to read and having knowledge of music theory. The BTW in the OP was not a recommendation, but to avoid criticism of people who choose not to learn. Interesting how some people made the leap from not been bound by rules in musical theory, to not needing to practice and that all musical knowledge is worthless. Still, it did allow for those posts to be made with disparagement.

Quite simply there aren't any. In an exam situation you will be expected to do things a certain way - ie 4 part harmonies - but in an exam you are following instruction rather than rules (Bach never bothered he frequently used consecutive 5th and octaves). Rules of harmony? None. A major chord uses certain notes but that is not a rule. Change the notes you get a different chord. Certain keys have certain notes, but knowing them doesn't stop you playing out of key or using unresolved dissonances. What music theory can do is give you an understanding of it all. BTW. There are many wonderful people and musicians who cannot read music and do not know about music theory.

[quote name='Paul_C' post='897287' date='Jul 17 2010, 02:08 PM'], but don't forget that sometimes breaking "the rules" can sound good too [/quote] i'm gonna start another thread about this

Been listening to Sun Ra. Challenging.

[i]traditional [/i]music theory, in terms of examinations, tends to be just as concerned classical history and knowledge (ie when did Beethoven last wash his socks?). It seems to be the application of theoretical knowledge you are after? I'd recommend teacher who knows his stuff, and can show you in an easy to understand manner how to use the modes, work with harmonies etc. Probably a bit more of an expensive option, but some tutors are happy to see students monthly.

Is this still with Bassmonkey?

Pics or it didn't happen. Or isn't happening. Er, or... just post pics!

[quote name='Rich' post='870728' date='Jun 18 2010, 12:57 PM']I wonder if his approach to the bass would have been quite so unique and left-field if he [i]had[/i] received an extensive musical education?[/quote] there seems to be a school of thought which suggests musical training holds you back or in someway restricts your ability. Possibly for another thread, along with the old chestnut of 'it's good that I don't know the rules, coz I don't know when I'm breaking them.' In reply to the above, did Arnold Schoenberg's extensive musical education stop him been unique and left-field? How about John Coltrane?

[quote name='JackLondon' post='878410' date='Jun 26 2010, 09:04 PM']Shame man, was really looking forward to your Shuker. Hope it's nothing serious ?[/quote] nah nothing serious, just life getting in the way and stopping me doing what I'd like.

looks like you had a decent crowd to play to too! You are now an 'arena band'

unfortunately life has intervened and I am no longer able to make it. I'll probably miss most of the match too I shall keep an eye out Sunday night for the pics and will be wishing that I was there.

Another possibility could be to negotiate free recording/rehearsal time with the studio for your band.

I remember reading somewhere, how Jaco would be doing pinched harmonics in time with the brass stabs. Obviously on that version there is no brass, so he ain't doing it. But if anyone can find a link...

in terms of Guitars, the Gibson Les Paul must be the most successful signature model ever. Funny how there are signature models of the Les Paul - signature models of a signature model

IMO & YMMV etc... I looked at both of these and tried them, although not in a gig situation, when I was deciding what to get - I ended up with a Boss ME50-B through a trade. If I was buying I would have got the Floor Pod because I prefered the sounds, it was much easier to use and I think cheaper. There are plenty of clips on Youtube for both which may help you decide.

[quote name='Rogueporn' post='864631' date='Jun 11 2010, 07:33 PM']Recently aquired zoot custom P. The pickguard was an afterthought. [attachment=51928:IMG_0217.JPG][/quote] tell us more! is it passive?

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='857795' date='Jun 4 2010, 10:52 PM']i'd quite like to see some pics of this [/quote]